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re: Official NFL Schedule release thread - Updates in OP
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:39 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:39 pm to BigBrod81
The Colts went 14 1/2 and 0 with Peyton Manning in 2009.
Then Peyton Manning was forced to sit down and they were outscored 56-11 the last 6 quarters of the season.
Do you need any more evidence that Peyton Manning ran that team and Jim Caldwell was clueless without him.
Then Peyton Manning was forced to sit down and they were outscored 56-11 the last 6 quarters of the season.
Do you need any more evidence that Peyton Manning ran that team and Jim Caldwell was clueless without him.
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Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:39 pm to LooseCannon22282
Yeah there offense has some pieces(like 3 or 4 + Stafford), but my point is the defense outside of maybe 3 guys has no one else. They are still are very incomplete team and we saw what Caldwell did with one of those already. I applaud Schwartz for what he was able to do with what he had.
If the Lions get more than 6 wins I'll be shocked.
If the Lions get more than 6 wins I'll be shocked.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:39 pm to lsutigers1992
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Drew Brees wasn't the MVP of Super Bowl 44. Jim Caldwell was
So Jim Caldwell threw that pick 6 to ice the game?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:41 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:And both of their wins were by 1 point. But the point is that they were still fighting even without Rodgers and like half of the offense. It wasn't just Rodgers.
and they had to fight like hell to come back to tie the Vikings of all teams
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:41 pm to bonethug0108
quote:Would be great to start strong 6-2 or so legitimately. Get that ground game going for the back stretch.
Eh, I prefer to start on the road more because you have to play 8 in the end anyway. Get them out of the way early. 5 of the first 8 on the road.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:42 pm to BigBrod81
He ran Mike Hart up the middle on 3rd and 1 with Peyton Manning at QB.
He had a 53 year old Matt Stover try a field goal from a distance he couldn't even come close to making anymore. Again, with Peyton Manning at QB. It gave the Saints a short field and gave them the go-ahead TD.
It's a much different game without those 2 decisions right there.
He had a 53 year old Matt Stover try a field goal from a distance he couldn't even come close to making anymore. Again, with Peyton Manning at QB. It gave the Saints a short field and gave them the go-ahead TD.
It's a much different game without those 2 decisions right there.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:42 pm to BigBrod81
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That roster had become depleted & old. Without Manning there to carry them you saw what happened. The inability to infuse youthful talent in along in with the veterans on that team is what cost Bill Polian his job.
exactly.
the turnover on that roster the last few years has been unbelievable. There were a lot of other holes in it besides missing Manning.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:43 pm to lsutigers1992
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Do you need any more evidence that Peyton Manning ran that team and Jim Caldwell was clueless without him.
Outside of Mathis & Freeney, who were the other playmakers on defense? When teams lose their starter, they usually try to rely on a running game & defense. What running game did Indy have to lean on? Please enlighten me.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:47 pm to Mr.Perfect
12-4 IMO
Undefeated at home
Losses on the road to the falcoons, panthers, lions and bears.
Undefeated at home
Losses on the road to the falcoons, panthers, lions and bears.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:48 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:But how different was the roster from the Super Bowl year to the year Manning went down?
There were a lot of other holes in it besides missing Manning.
I'm not saying the roster didn't have holes, but I believe it was much of the same roster(at least the key pieces) from their Super Bowl run.
So now he's going to another team with a lot of holes and no Manning at QB(granted Stafford is better than Painter, but nowhere near Manning). How is that going to work?
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:49 pm to bonethug0108
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Yeah there offense has some pieces(like 3 or 4 + Stafford), but my point is the defense outside of maybe 3 guys has no one else. They are still are very incomplete team and we saw what Caldwell did with one of those already. I applaud Schwartz for what he was able to do with what he had.
don't get me wrong... I'm not saying they are going to be a playoff team or anything. I just feel like they made a lot of bone headed penalties under Schwartz. Maybe this change will help them... I've seen crazier things before.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:49 pm to BigBrod81
quote:And who does he have in Detroit on defense?
Outside of Mathis & Freeney
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:49 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
He ran Mike Hart up the middle on 3rd and 1 with Peyton Manning at QB.
So Peyton is the GOAT who calls & designs all the plays but Caldwell is the one who called for a run on 3rd & 1 now?
You don't know shite. Peyton may have saw something he liked against the personnel presnap. Let's not forget that Indy ran the ball down our throat in the 1st half. I don't see why they wouldn't figure they couldn't a yard on the ground against the defense.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:51 pm to LooseCannon22282
quote:I can agree with that, but help doesn't always equal wins.
I just feel like they made a lot of bone headed penalties under Schwartz. Maybe this change will help them... I've seen crazier things before.
Look at Tampa with one extreme to another. Discipline actually made them commit more penalties it seemed(at least worse and more poorly timed ones).
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:53 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
I can agree with that, but help doesn't always equal wins.
Look at Tampa with one extreme to another. Discipline actually made them commit more penalties it seemed(at least worse and more poorly timed ones).
I just looking for the right time to jump in and say
TAMPA BAY ALARM CLOCKS!
(their new unis
)This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:56 pm to rt3
I forgot about that.
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:57 pm to bonethug0108
it was just a thought. Our O-line had some problems on the interior last year. Detroit is strong in the middle. They had one of the best run defenses in the league last year.
Suh is up for a contract at the end of the year and then Fairley will be looking to get paid the year after that. I know I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill but I was just ready to talk about something besides the draft
Suh is up for a contract at the end of the year and then Fairley will be looking to get paid the year after that. I know I'm probably making a mountain out of a molehill but I was just ready to talk about something besides the draft
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:58 pm to BigBrod81
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Outside of Mathis & Freeney, who were the other playmakers on defense? When teams lose their starter, they usually try to rely on a running game & defense. What running game did Indy have to lean on? Please enlighten me.
Iono, you would hope Addai (4th year 1st round) and Brown (rookie 1st round) would be enough.
That team was carried by Manning.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:59 pm to LooseCannon22282
Oh yeah it was a good talk and I could be completely wrong and the Lions go 13-3. You never know until the games are played.
Teams with new coaching staffs are always the hardest to predict. That's why Tampa scares me a little more than Atlanta or Carolina.
Teams with new coaching staffs are always the hardest to predict. That's why Tampa scares me a little more than Atlanta or Carolina.
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:01 pm to BigBrod81
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So Peyton is the GOAT who calls & designs all the plays but Caldwell is the one who called for a run on 3rd & 1 now?
You don't know shite. Peyton may have saw something he liked against the personnel presnap. Let's not forget that Indy ran the ball down our throat in the 1st half. I don't see why they wouldn't figure they couldn't a yard on the ground against the defense.
Maybe with their first or second string RBs? Not a guy with 26 carries for 70 yards on the season. They needed one play to run out the clock and not give the ball back to the Saints in scoring position, and Joseph Addai and Donald Brown were on your bench?
And I'm the one who doesn't know shite about football.
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