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More trade clarification: Pats can't trade 118
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:08 am
According to Mike Reiss and the NFLs press release, that 4th round pick has officially been forfeiting and the Pats no longer own it since the trade is official and can't trade it again
pats can acquire a higher 4th and that would restore 118, but can't use 118 to trade unless they acquire a higher pick by other means
pats can acquire a higher 4th and that would restore 118, but can't use 118 to trade unless they acquire a higher pick by other means
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:15 am to wildtigercat93
I'm a little dense.
So the Pats wanted our 4th because they were going to lose theirs?
So the Pats wanted our 4th because they were going to lose theirs?
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:19 am to Patrick O Rly
They needed to gain a 4th in order to have 1, due to the deflategate punishment.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:13 am to wildtigercat93
Do peeps just not look to see if something was posted already anymore? Another thread on this with 29 responses already.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:45 am to wildtigercat93
Now I'm mad. You don't throw away a 4th round pick to help a buddy out when you need your picks. Giving them Cooks for a 1st and 3rd was fair enough, don't throw away one of our picks just because.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:51 am to knowingabyss
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don't throw away one of our picks just because.
It wasn't just because. Giving them our fourth allows them to keep their own, rather than lose it. Now they have a pick in the 4th round which they didn't before the trade. That's worth something.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 10:56 am to knowingabyss
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Now I'm mad. You don't throw away a 4th round pick to help a buddy out when you need your picks.
Not what happened at all
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Giving them Cooks for a 1st and 3rd was fair enough
Really? Because that's not what the trade was at all. You're overvaluing Cooks. We're not trading Dez or Odell here....
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don't throw away one of our picks just because.
Because what? It was part of the trade deal. They wanted a 4th and the player for the 1st and 3rd. Period. No matter their reasoning. The forfeited pick has no bearing on the deal. What they did with that pick is their business. Who gives a frick? We used it in a trade deal to get a 1st and 3rd. You're too simple minded.....
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:18 am to blueslover
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Posted by blueslover on 3/12/17 at 10:13 am to wildtigercat93 Do peeps just not look to see if something was posted already anymore? Another thread on this with 29 responses already.
I made this thread before that one btw
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:51 am to whodatfan
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Because what? It was part of the trade deal. They wanted a 4th and the player for the 1st and 3rd. Period. No matter their reasoning. The forfeited pick has no bearing on the deal. What they did with that pick is their business. Who gives a frick? We used it in a trade deal to get a 1st and 3rd. You're too simple minded.....
We traded a player that we drafted in the 1st round with the 20th pick for a 32 pick which is essentially a 2nd rounder. He has already proven himself at this level. So essentially we got a 2nd and a third and gave up a player we traded up to get to give him away for a lesser value 1st round selection you know the last pick in the round. Fuking terrible trade and helping the pats out by gifting them a 4th is just retarded, this front office must be democrat
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:56 am to burke985
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which is essentially a 2nd rounder.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:58 am to burke985
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We traded a player that we drafted in the 1st round with the 20th pick for a 32 pick which is essentially a 2nd rounder.
Except for that whole 5th year option. But don't let a silly thing like facts get in the way.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:58 am to goatmilker
I prefer pick 33 because it's essentially a first rounder
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:59 am to burke985
Second rounders don't have 5th year options. It's a HUGE difference.
That's why every year you have teams trying to trade up to get those last few picks.
32 is prime real estate because it's last chance territory. And if you don't trade it you get a player with a 5th year option.
That's why every year you have teams trying to trade up to get those last few picks.
32 is prime real estate because it's last chance territory. And if you don't trade it you get a player with a 5th year option.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:00 pm to Brageous
I won't trade for a 62nd pick cause its really a stupid 3rd round pick fwiw.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:01 pm to dcw7g
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Giving them our fourth allows them to keep their own, rather than lose it. Now they have a pick in the 4th round which they didn't before the trade. That's worth something.
So you're confirming exactly what he said then?
Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:03 pm to burke985
Melt
Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:04 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:my apologies sir
I made this thread before
Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:18 pm to blueslover
You point is correct, just not in this instance 
this board is pretty bad at posting days off info, or stuff that's been posted 100 times
this board is pretty bad at posting days off info, or stuff that's been posted 100 timesPosted on 3/12/17 at 12:28 pm to wildtigercat93
I don't post much during the season on game days for that very reason. Same thing occurs on busy days like free agency opening or the draft as well. Oh well
Posted on 3/12/17 at 1:20 pm to burke985
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a 32 pick which is essentially a 2nd rounder.
I wish this would stop popping up in threads about the trade. It's a truly pessimistic and simple minded way of looking at it, especially when the 5th year option bonus has been mentioned numerous times.
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