re: Mark Ingram will lead the league in rushing

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Holy shite... Are you really this fricking stupid? Seriously?

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Please elaborate. Explain to me how great he was in the second half of last season.

You said second half and then quoted stats from seven games. Half an NFL season is eight games.

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You said second half and then quoted stats from seven games. Half an NFL season is eight games.

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You're going to pick nits? Good Lord, EVERYONE knows he kicked arse vs Dallas. That's part of the reason everyone has inflated his second half of 2013 in their minds.

I know you have to constantly use insults to make your point. It makes me believe you more.

I'm not ignoring the Dallas game, I figured it was understood. But throw it in there and he was still mediocre and not close to a "beast." But, I realize you are blinded by subjectivity and one or two games is enough for you to consider him great. Good for you. it'll make you happy.

Ingram had a good YPC last year. He was far from mediocre. After he came back from injury, he was a beast. The games where he wasn't were the games where CSP wouldn't feed him.

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There's been plenty of posts about how we spent too much on getting him and about drafting a player we don't try to feature.

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Don't even try to pull this crap. ST is completely infested with Mark Ingram threads all year long with nary a peep about Payton.

You find me a thread specifically calling out the FO for drafting Ingram, with no mention of bama in a negative way, and I will find you 10 Mark Ingram threads.

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So no Ingram criticism has ever been justified?

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Criticism and hatred are different. He gets way more of the latter than the former.

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Are Toon haters doing it cause they're expecting an LSU loss?

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lolwut? Same bet on Toon threads. I'll find you 10 "Ingram sucks" threads for every "Toon sucks" thread you find.

And just to compare the stupidity of the "Ingram sucked in the second half", here's PT and Robinson from that same half.

PT
68 attempts
272 yards
4.0 ypc

38 receptions
223 yards
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Robinson
21 attempts
78 yards
3.7 ypc

0 receiving

Postseason:
21 attempts
102 yards
4.9 ypc

1 reception
13 yards

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It was a nice average but Ypc would regress to the mean with more carries.

Again, admit that you didn't realize his numbers were that low and that's why you referred to him as a beast.

a 5.7 average with those few carries is not beastly by any means.

I'll admit that I was wrong when I said he sucked.

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I already knew his #'s weren't going to be high. But if you watched last season, after that Dallas game the switch turned on for him. You could just look at how he ran and it was a different Ingram from the past 3 years. Once Armstead went in, we took off (i.e. Carolina)

Ingram Postseason:
28 carries
146 yards
5.2ypc

3 receptions
17 yards

1FL

Against:
#10 ranked run defense: 104.2ypg
3.77ypr
18 rushes 97 yards (5.4ypc)

#8 ranked run defense: 101.6ypg
3.86ypr
10 rushes 49 yards (4.9ypc)

Just to add in:
#2 ranked run defense: 86.9ypg
3.95ypr
13 rushes 83 yards (6.4ypc)

I wasn't referring to you with the total yards comment, but my assessment of him was too harsh. I still say he wasn't a beast but he did hopefully show a durable improvement.