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re: March 17th is when we need to cut Carr by to keep him from getting another $30M guaranteed

Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:48 am to
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He’s made 169 career starts and carries a career winning percentage of 45%


I get what you are saying, but his whole career has been with the raiders and a Dennis Allen led Saints team. That’s about as bad as it gets.

Surrounding talent matters. I’ve used this example before, but Jimmy G had a higher win percentage than both Montana and Steve Young. And got a team to the superbowl.

Went to the raiders and was benched.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 9:25 am to
Pretty interesting analogy. Looked up Carr's record by HC and thought this was interesting:

Dennis Allen (both Oak & NO): 14-17 .452 winning %age, (DA career .329)
Tony Sparano: 3-9 .250 winning %age, (TS career .438)
Jack DelRio: 25-21 .543 winning %age, (JD career .497)
Jon Gruden: 22-31 .415 winning %age, (JG career .511)
R Bisaccia: 7-5 .583 winning %age, (TS career .583)
Josh McDaniels: 6-11 .400 winning %age, (JM career .377)

I don't think this really means anything other than the only good HC he played for was Gruden. I think a lot of us like Del Rio, but his overall record is bad; however, does he get the benefit of the doubt since his record was built on 9 years with Jax and 3 years with Oak?

Sparano & Gruden are the only coaches that have a higher career winning %age without Carr.

Is Josh McDaniels the offensive version of DA, or was he a product of Brady?
Posted by patches_ohoulihan
Member since Jun 2013
25 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:31 am to
The saints paid mid-range money for a mid-range QB. I don't know what people were expecting.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
1455 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 5:42 pm to
A 45% winning percentage does not mean Carr is a BAD QB.Archie
Manning winning % was much worse because he was on horribly run
franchise.If Archie had been drafted by a competent team he would have
been a top NFL QB.Carr when healthy and the team healthy rated as a
top 10 QB last season,thats not me saying that thats the NFL stats talking.
Yall can hate on Carr all you want he wasn`t the SAINTS problem.Some of you are just blinded by hate.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70554 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:34 pm to
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I get what you are saying, but his whole career has been with the raiders and a Dennis Allen led Saints team. That’s about as bad as it gets.


And he had a chance to leave the raiders and chose to play for Dennis Allen where he could collect his money and be comfortable. Dude isn’t exactly a competitive freak like some of these QBs. Mediocrity tends to attract mediocrity and he kinda is what he is.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7419 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:32 pm to
And we structured his hit in 2026 is 69 million
Mickey is a cap god...... smh
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
8892 posts
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:04 pm to
That's $2.5M for every redzone turnover that he'll ultimately have in 2025 and try and blame one of his teammates for (with his gestures).
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:29 pm to
Season ticket renewal due on March 21
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13628 posts
Posted on 3/10/25 at 10:38 pm to
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And he had a chance to leave the raiders and chose to play for Dennis Allen where he could collect his money and be comfortable. Dude isn’t exactly a competitive freak like some of these QBs. Mediocrity tends to attract mediocrity and he kinda is what he is.


Hate to break it to you but most teams that are getting QBs off the scrap heap (free agency) are not going to be franchise QBs or they were at one time and well past their prime.

And those teams are usually bad and looking for a qb to change their fortunes.


Teams usually hang on to the good ones and don’t let them hit the market.

Brees was damaged goods, only reason he hit the fa pool.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 10:41 pm
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