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re: Kamara catch was incomplete. Should have been ruled as so

Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:54 pm to
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If you acknowledge that a one handed catch exists, then you have to realize that was a catch.


It was t a catch when his first foot touches the ground
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Every fan should know the nfl is a high stakes high profit sports entertainment venture and outcomes are not always left to chance.



I think this is the second time I ever agreed with you.

The first time was on the poli board
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70669 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:01 pm to
I blame Trump
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:03 pm to
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Dumbest poster & dumbest thread I’ve ever witnessed on this board.

That says a lot



And you are here

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:06 pm to
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How can you say the ball was secured in a millisecond


By whether or not the ball continues to move in his hand(s).

You are confusing when the process of a catch begins vs. when it ends. It begins when it is secure which, without a bobble can happen immediately.
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
474 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:30 pm to
his feet were inbounds with one hand possession
Posted by gsmith5651
Member since Feb 2016
474 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:32 pm to
They didnt even question the call. He had two feet in with posession in one hand-TD
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:55 pm to
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They didnt even question the call. He had two feet in with posession in one hand-TD



They reviewed it and confirmed the catch because of the reasons I mentioned.

Kamara had secured the ball and was in control, then both feet touched in bounds, then he survived the ground.

There was no bobble. There was no ball movement once he secured it.
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
1840 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

By whether or not the ball continues to move in his hand(s). You are confusing when the process of a catch begins vs. when it ends. It begins when it is secure which, without a bobble can happen immediately.


This ^
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:16 pm to
Right

OP’s logic suggests that one-handed catches don’t exist

I’m convinced he’s either an awful troll or so deeply troubled that I feel should feel guilty for arguing with him

Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18147 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:44 pm to
OP needs a timeout.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
81997 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

NawlinsTiger9


u said kumala would win big

STFU clown

Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

You are confusing when the process of a catch begins vs. when it ends. It begins when it is secure which, without a bobble can happen immediately.


I’m not confusing anything

You must have possession when the first foot is down

He did not have possession when the first foot touched the ground
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

OP needs a timeout.



Stop making stupid posts

And I won’t respond

You see how that works?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:58 pm to
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I blame Trump



I knew I liked you
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:02 pm to
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I’m convinced he’s either an awful troll

or so deeply troubled that I feel should feel guilty for arguing with him



You’re correct

I’m deeply troubled

And you dumbasses aren’t?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

You are confusing when the process of a catch begins vs. when it ends.

It begins when it is secure which, without a bobble can happen immediately.


No

It must be a catch when his first foot touched to allow continuation of the second foot touching

It was not a catch when his first foot touched

Therefore when his second foot touched
That was his first foot touching while catching the ball

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:11 pm to
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I’m not confusing anything



Sure you are.

quote:

You must have possession when the first foot is down



I don't know if you are getting confused by semantics, or intentionally trying to play semantics.

Possession is a specific, meaningful term. A catch is required to have possession. You've got it backwards. Possession is not a precursor to a catch.

Control of the ball is what is required to have occurred before two feet are down. Possession occurs after control, multiple feet down, and surviving the ground if necessary.

quote:

He did not have possession when the first foot touched the ground



See above.

But, other than the semantics games you are playing, of course he had control prior to his first and second foot touching in bounds.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59309 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

It must be a catch when his first foot touched to allow continuation of the second foot touching





It must be a catch in order for it to be a catch?

quote:

It was not a catch when his first foot touched



Correct. It was a catch after he controlled the ball, his two feet touched, and he survived the ground.

quote:

Therefore when his second foot touched
That was his first foot touching while catching the ball



Your argument is nonsensical.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19420 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:19 pm to
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You are the reason I hate posters on here with LSU by their name!!!!

Stay outta Saints Talk with that nonsense


You do know there wouldn’t be a Saints Talk without “Tiger Droppings”

Yes?

And there wouldn’t be a Saints Talk without Tiger Fans

This is a weak arse board

Without LSU fans

There would only be a few dumbass pussies like you posting here

Many LSU fans don’t give one frick about the Saints or the NFL

I can assure you that Mr. Chicken appreciates the input from LSU fans

Even on this weak arse board

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