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Is there a statistics on prevent defense against game winning drives
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:11 pm
I am honesty curious. It seems our defense does this every time and gets eaten up in chunks and we make either a miraculous last second play (greer ATL last year, vaccaro this year) or we get heartbroken because a team can drive all the way down.
Does going into prevent defense seem to cost teams more wins than playing a normal defensive set?
eta: Giving up chunks of yardage to teams to allow them to score* not just on the last play of a game.
Does going into prevent defense seem to cost teams more wins than playing a normal defensive set?
eta: Giving up chunks of yardage to teams to allow them to score* not just on the last play of a game.
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 10:17 pm
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Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:12 pm to htran90
Not playing prevent certainly cost us a super bowl in 2011.
And we blitzed on the last drive fyi
And we blitzed on the last drive fyi
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:14 pm to htran90
I may not be remembering correctly but I think the San Fran loss was exactly the opposite problem. We were blitzing and playing man when we should have played prevent.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:15 pm to CptRusty
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I may not be remembering correctly but I think the San Fran loss was exactly the opposite problem. We were blitzing and playing man when we should have played prevent.
Yeah that san fran add-in was my mistake. that was definitely overload blitzing leaving harper/jenkins on an island.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:16 pm to TigerBait1127
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Not playing prevent certainly cost us a super bowl in 2011.
And we blitzed on the last drive fyi
meant giving up chunks of yardage to give the opposing team a chance of even getting down the field.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:18 pm to CptRusty
Blitzing (and failing to double Vernon Davis) is what cost us the San Francisco game in 2011.
Anyway, analyzing the defense in this game is moronic. They stopped them on the 4th down in Patriots territory and then they stopped them again with an interception. The fact that the offense gained basically no yards in those two instances cost the team the game. This loss was not on the defense.
Anyway, analyzing the defense in this game is moronic. They stopped them on the 4th down in Patriots territory and then they stopped them again with an interception. The fact that the offense gained basically no yards in those two instances cost the team the game. This loss was not on the defense.
This post was edited on 10/13/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:18 pm to htran90
Imo if the team has to score a TD, play prevent under 2 minutes left. If all they need is a field goal than don't play prevent.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:19 pm to htran90
If you give up a drive at the end to lose most fans will say you're playing prevent defense no matter what.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:27 pm to htran90
Saints were blitzing early on the drive, and simply got outschemed. Since they had no timeouts left (Thanks Drew), they didn't get the opportunity to set up and really get the play calls in. If people noticed, the times the Pats moved the ball on the defense was when they were in up-tempo offense and preventing the defense from getting set up fully.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:29 pm to windshieldman
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mo if the team has to score a TD, play prevent under 2 minutes left. If all they need is a field goal than don't play prevent.
This.
Too many coaches are scared that they will give up a TD that they leave everything short and in the middle of the field wide open.
THAT is "prevent defense," and it DOES NOT WORK if you only need to get in FG range. It gets you there much much easier.
It works often if you are up by more than a field goal.
Posted on 10/13/13 at 10:33 pm to Unknown_Poster
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Unknown_Poster
definitely not chalking this one as a defensive loss. it was definitely playcalling and offense that costed us this one.
if you're holding brady to ~58% completion, 270~yards, 1TD, 1INT, and 5 sacks and you have "the saints offense" you should win 9/10 times.
I'm just curious in regards to prevent and/or dropping 8 defenders to leave intermediate routes to avoid teams scoring a TD. it seems like teams get scared and rather bleed slowly than get stabbed right away.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 1:08 am to htran90
The soft " prevent defense " works !!!
It works when you use it on the last play of the game! (at the most the last few plays of the game)
When the defense plays soft to prevent the long TD,
the offense eats it up. And not just 10 yd. plays. Many times these plays turn into big gains. Most of these drives have a couple of 20+ yard gains on the backs of several 10+ yard plays. Since the offense is not using 3 or 4 plays to get 1st downs , they can throw in a running play every now & to run off the clock if that's what's needed!!
" Prevent defense " usually prevents one thing. It prevents the team that's using from winning the game!
It works when you use it on the last play of the game! (at the most the last few plays of the game)
When the defense plays soft to prevent the long TD,
the offense eats it up. And not just 10 yd. plays. Many times these plays turn into big gains. Most of these drives have a couple of 20+ yard gains on the backs of several 10+ yard plays. Since the offense is not using 3 or 4 plays to get 1st downs , they can throw in a running play every now & to run off the clock if that's what's needed!!
" Prevent defense " usually prevents one thing. It prevents the team that's using from winning the game!
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