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re: Is Reggie Bush on other teams radar?
Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:37 pm to gosaints16
Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:37 pm to gosaints16
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Dexter mccluster
Will be no where near Reggie
you mean Dexter won't fumble? well, that's good, right?
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:44 pm to Midget Death Squad
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his salary will make it more difficult to sign top free agents
Sign what free agents? Chances our we will not have an opportunity to sign any high price free agents because of the uncapped season rules.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 11:56 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Pierre Thomas, Bushrod, Brown, Evans, Hargrove, Harper or Roby, all of which have been either equal to or greater in value to this team than Bush.
right
Posted on 2/12/10 at 12:37 am to Midget Death Squad
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8 mill can be the difference in keeping or losing a Pierre Thomas, Bushrod, Brown, Evans, Hargrove, Harper or Roby, all of which have been either equal to or greater in value to this team than Bush.
Theres a whole lot of fail in the post.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 1:20 am to mprtiger
Not a chance in hell NO just releases Reggie.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 1:26 am to CECILTURTLE
Reggie probably won't re-work his deal. There would be a big market for him if we cut him. They'd be a bidding war among at least 4 or 5 teams.
He won't make more than Drew. Drew makes more than 8 million now. And since Drew is about to re-work his deal, he will be the highest paid QB in the league, well, maybe top 3.
The Saints need Reggie, he is MUCH more than rushing, receiving, or return yards.
Watch the replay of the Superbowl. Drew fakes a pitch to Reggie, two LBs shift over giving Drew time and a passing lane to the other side.
Reggie is a valuable asset to this team and the Saints offense won't be the same without him.
He won't make more than Drew. Drew makes more than 8 million now. And since Drew is about to re-work his deal, he will be the highest paid QB in the league, well, maybe top 3.
The Saints need Reggie, he is MUCH more than rushing, receiving, or return yards.
Watch the replay of the Superbowl. Drew fakes a pitch to Reggie, two LBs shift over giving Drew time and a passing lane to the other side.
Reggie is a valuable asset to this team and the Saints offense won't be the same without him.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 6:43 am to AllsGroovn
Time will tell where Reggie's allegiance lie. Personally I think he will chase the all mighty dollar if we ask him to restructure. I hope I am wrong however I do not feel he is an 8 Million dollar man
This post was edited on 2/12/10 at 7:28 am
Posted on 2/12/10 at 7:07 am to AllsGroovn
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The Saints need Reggie, he is MUCH more than rushing, receiving, or return yards.
what else is he, passing yards too?
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Watch the replay of the Superbowl. Drew fakes a pitch to Reggie, two LBs shift over giving Drew time and a passing lane to the other side.
you mean, just like when any other team with an effective running game does the same thing? It's called a play fake. yes, a fake pitch serves the same purpose as a fake hand off.
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Reggie is a valuable asset to this team
yes he is, just not the MOST valuable
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the Saints offense won't be the same without him.
if they don't find a replacement, which shouldn't be that difficult, then you're right.
The debate here isn't whether or not the Saints ought to keep Bush; it's whether or not he should stay if he does not agree to a pay cut. You don't pay the 30th best RB in the league #1 RB money. The approach should be as such: negotiate an extension that is worth top role player value, sign him if he accepts, trade him if he does not. Do not cut him. He will probably bring in a 3-4 rd pick, which is too valuable to pass up.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 7:21 am to Midget Death Squad
There are lots of unknowns concerning Reggie and next year. The facts are the fans like him. He makes the team better. Coach and the players like him and overall he's good for the organization and the city. We all want him to stay. But those who say pay him 'whatever' (8 million) fail to see the domino effect on the rest of the team when trying to sign them up either this year or the next. You have players who made the pro bowl this year are they not going to want more than Bush or P Thomas who ran for more yards or Drew Brees or D Sharper or maybe Vilma the Capt of the front seven maybe he will want to make "Bush" money ...and on down the line. It would make it hard for the entire Org. to control salaries. FWIW. 
Posted on 2/12/10 at 7:30 am to goatmilker
What is the incentive for Reggie to rework his deal?
NFL careers are very short, it's make as much money as you can for the short time you are a pro football player.
Another team will give him $8 Million. No team will offer a trade knowing that if the Saints are trying to unload him they will eventually cut him, allowing the new team to write his new deal. A trade would mean the new team would have to honor the Saints contract with Reggie.
Reggie holds all the cards here. The Saints will end up paying him his $8 million.
NFL careers are very short, it's make as much money as you can for the short time you are a pro football player.
Another team will give him $8 Million. No team will offer a trade knowing that if the Saints are trying to unload him they will eventually cut him, allowing the new team to write his new deal. A trade would mean the new team would have to honor the Saints contract with Reggie.
Reggie holds all the cards here. The Saints will end up paying him his $8 million.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 8:39 am to AllsGroovn
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What is the incentive for Reggie to rework his deal?
long term contract and stability. if the Saints are willing to let him play one year for 8mil, then he has not incentive obviously. if they aren't (which is most likely), then he has no choice or else he will be traded.
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Another team will give him $8 Million
um, no
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No team will offer a trade knowing that if the Saints are trying to unload him they will eventually cut him, allowing the new team to write his new deal
nope. teams trade in order to secure a player, because they don't want the player they covet to hit the open market and be able to negotiate with any team. It's much easier to outbid 2-3 other teams for trade compensation than it is to outbid 15-20 for monetary. it's why teams trade players in final years of contracts.
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A trade would mean the new team would have to honor the Saints contract with Reggie.
nope. Teams trading for a player almost always ask for permission from the team trading away the player to negotiate a contract with said player. The process goes as such: teams agree on trade compensation; Owning Team grants permission to Acquiring Team to negotiate contract with player; if terms of contract is agreed upon, then trade goes through; if no agreement can be reached, then the trade doesn't go through.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 8:40 am to goatmilker
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goatmilker
well said. this is my thoughts exactly, but probably stated more clearly than how I've been putting it
Posted on 2/12/10 at 8:59 am to AllsGroovn
quote:Not really. While he does make plays from time to time the Saints do just fine without him. The Saints winning percentage with RB is .596 and it's .666 without him.
The Saints need Reggie
quote:Like they do with almost every other running back.
Watch the replay of the Superbowl. Drew fakes a pitch to Reggie, two LBs shift over
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:12 am to SJS Eagle 85
As of now it LOOKS like next year will be an uncapped year. However, if a team goes out and overspends on a guy like Bush or Peppers and then a new CBA gets put in place with a cap then those teams will be screwed. I don't look for many teams to offer big dollars to free agents with the unknown looming.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:19 am to Midget Death Squad
Looks like the Bush talk will dominate the off season Lets hope it's resolved sooner rather than later for all our sakes.Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:22 am to goatmilker
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Looks like the Bush talk will dominate the off season
unfortunately. After this thread, I will probably stay away from it
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Lets hope it's resolved sooner rather than later for all our sakes
Michael Lombardi made and interesting point last night on NFL Network. Due to Bush's 8mil being his salary and not bonuses of any kind, it will not count anything to the Saints until the season starts. He thinks they can keep him all through camp, and the drama could go on until the season starts. He does think they will not pay him the 8mil though, because he simply isn't worth that much.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:26 am to LSUchuck
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Midget Death Squad
Get a grip dude! Your posts sound like a reggie hater. If your a tru-dat saints fan then your concern with his big salary pulling down the team I can understand. How much was reggie paid per year so far? If it has been 8million a year then why not keep it them same and try to keep this SUPER BOWL champion team intact? I dont really know how the payroll and how everything fits together in a NFL organization but my guess is that the people paid to make those decisions will come through perfectly for the saints, they have done pretty well for us here in recent history eh??
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:29 am to Kosmo95
You sure told him.
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:29 am to Midget Death Squad
hey MDS, how much is jones-drew making next season? LOL
Posted on 2/12/10 at 9:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
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No salary cap next year brah
Yeah but Benson's not a gazillionaire. Even if you don't have a cap you still have to have the cash, and if they're smart they'll be paying Brees $30 - $50 million up front next year. How much spare change will Benson have left after securing Brees?
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