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re: I like the pick, a safety was a big need that was addressed

Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:35 am to
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In the past 5 years how many times has the top 2 safeties been a bust? How many times has the 4th ranked pass rusher been a bust?


In the past 4 years how many players we picked in the first round that turned put to be a 1st round caliber ?

Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:37 am to
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everything on defense was the problem
Amen.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6274 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:38 am to
I seem to remember Vernon Davis mauling Harper all game in 2011 playoffs
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Receiving: V. Davis (SF) - 7 REC, 180 YDS, 2 TD

^ that's not a problem right?

or this little observation from the Seahawks 2010 playoff game:
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Roman Harper’s bad day: We talk about technique all of the time—footwork, hands, hips, etc. But as a DB in the NFL, your eye placement is crucial to making plays. Especially as a safety, the first step to any play in reading your keys—because they tell you where the ball is going. Three plays for Harper: the double move from TE Camron Morrah, the TE fall “throw back” and the deep 7 route to Brandon Stokley out of the “spot” combination (Flat-Curl-7). Those are plays you can’t give up in the post season and expect to come out with a win. Use your eyes, read your keys and understand what the formation alignment is telling you. That’s part of the NFL.


Love his blitzing ability, but our safety play has been atrocious at best.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:41 am to
If you can't generate any pass rush , Revis Island would look like harper out there
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:43 am to
Having a pass rush won't give them the coverage skills they lack. It helps obviously but they can't cover in a passing league...that's a problem
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:45 am to
It works both ways. Pass rush helps coverage but coverage can also help pass rush
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:46 am to
Let's not forget that this was only the first round.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32349 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:47 am to
some pass rush + a good cover player is more efficient than a decent pass rush and no cover skills imo.

I have faith in our 3 pass rushers, I think they'll shine and we'll have a 10+ sack player this year
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3540 posts
Posted on 4/26/13 at 9:51 am to
I don't mind the safety pick, but the depth at safety in this draft seemed to trump using 15 for Vaccaro. I'm sure they did what they wanted or were able to do, but if it was possible they needed to trade down and could have targeted Elam or Reid and added a pick. Obviously I don't know what the hell they tried, but Vaccaro IMHO was not far and away better than the next 2-3 safeties especially considering he has not been evaluated as a ball hawking safety which is something the Saints have sorely missed since Sharper. I think Reid projects as a Darren Sharper style safety, and would have loved to see Reid in the black and gold.

Here's to hoping Vaccaro proves me wrong

Saints should seek a quality tackle moving forward. Protect Breesus.
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