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re: Here's what various draft websites had to say about UDFA OG Landon Turner
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:37 pm to GynoSandberg
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:37 pm to GynoSandberg
Yeah rounds if most or all of the drills were that far off. They weren't.
What was far far far off was vert and broad. That's enough to scare teams. Add in what you're talking about and yeah you can see maybe why he fell.
What was far far far off was vert and broad. That's enough to scare teams. Add in what you're talking about and yeah you can see maybe why he fell.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 7:36 pm to mm2316
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Emory Hunt ?@FBallGameplan Emory Hunt Retweeted Nick Underhill My #1 rated OG prospect in the #NFLDraft. I had a 1st Rd grade on him
Never trust this guy for draft grades
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:17 am to GynoSandberg
Here's how Landon and Avery stack up against some comparable big guys from the last few years.
I think Landon is Tre Jackson or better, without the FSU National Championship.
I think Avery Young is Daryl Williams or better, without the Sooner win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
they're both better than Cyril Richardson at EVERYTHING, and better producers than Robert Myers or Eric Herman..... but not as well rounded and polished as Jeremiah Poutasi. So how'd that play out on draft night for them all?
Tre Jackson: All American, First Team All ACC 2 years in a row. Wide body. Guard only. Sound familiar?
Daryl Williams: Big Program Right tackle, Possible NFL Guard. Below-average athleticism. Plodder.
Jeremiah Poutasi: Great measurables, above average mid-conference college left tackle with NFL guard upside
Bobby Hart and Cyril Richardson: Solid programs, average play at college tackle, good at guard, NFL Guard flier
Robert Myers and Eric Herman: Small school tackles, possible NFL guards, Good combines
Jeremiah Poutasi: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 3 / Pick: 66
Tre Jackson: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 4 / Pick: 111
Daryl Williams: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 4 / Pick: 102
Cyril Richardson: NFL draft: 2014 / Round: 5 / Pick: 153
Robert Myers: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 5 / Pick: 176
Bobby Hart: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 7 / Pick: 226
Eric Herman: NFL draft: 2013 / Round: 7 / Pick: 225
Landon and Avery could have easily been 4th Rounders, had they been on better teams. As a physical prospect, Avery may be the best one on that list. He also may be the best Left guard prospect that we have. If Andrus can't make the switch to RT this year, Avery is going to be seeing plenty snaps there too... Our first rounder and a UDFA will be duking it out for the same positions.
I think Landon is Tre Jackson or better, without the FSU National Championship.
I think Avery Young is Daryl Williams or better, without the Sooner win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.
they're both better than Cyril Richardson at EVERYTHING, and better producers than Robert Myers or Eric Herman..... but not as well rounded and polished as Jeremiah Poutasi. So how'd that play out on draft night for them all?
Tre Jackson: All American, First Team All ACC 2 years in a row. Wide body. Guard only. Sound familiar?
Daryl Williams: Big Program Right tackle, Possible NFL Guard. Below-average athleticism. Plodder.
Jeremiah Poutasi: Great measurables, above average mid-conference college left tackle with NFL guard upside
Bobby Hart and Cyril Richardson: Solid programs, average play at college tackle, good at guard, NFL Guard flier
Robert Myers and Eric Herman: Small school tackles, possible NFL guards, Good combines
Jeremiah Poutasi: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 3 / Pick: 66
Tre Jackson: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 4 / Pick: 111
Daryl Williams: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 4 / Pick: 102
Cyril Richardson: NFL draft: 2014 / Round: 5 / Pick: 153
Robert Myers: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 5 / Pick: 176
Bobby Hart: NFL draft: 2015 / Round: 7 / Pick: 226
Eric Herman: NFL draft: 2013 / Round: 7 / Pick: 225
Landon and Avery could have easily been 4th Rounders, had they been on better teams. As a physical prospect, Avery may be the best one on that list. He also may be the best Left guard prospect that we have. If Andrus can't make the switch to RT this year, Avery is going to be seeing plenty snaps there too... Our first rounder and a UDFA will be duking it out for the same positions.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 3:22 am to bonethug0108
quote:"The Group 2 offensive linemen tackled the vertical jump and broad jump before running the 40, doing those while the Group 1 specialists and offensive linemen ran their 40s at the NFL Scouting Combine."
That's still with the question of when did he pull a hammy. What order did he do the drills? Because a pulled hamstring will definitely affect those two drills more than others.
He was in Group 2, but it could have been tweaked before he even ran. We'll never know. He didn't chose to redo any of those at his pro-day, just completing the events he missed in the 20 yard shuttle and 3-cone drill.... before a HELL of a workout.
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