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re: Fully loaded 9mm found in Smiths car

Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:09 pm to
I dont go to New Orleans without my gun, and it's fully loaded. I never intend to use it and hope I don't have to.

Unless Smith was shot while he was holding his gun,I don't see how self defense pans out here.i'm old school though, I'd much rather handle things with my head, and if that doesn't work out, my fists.
Posted by Sprung
In between the cusions
Member since Apr 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:16 pm to
I'm upset as anyone about this and can't understand how someone could shoot someone in the back. But the law is the law. I'm not an attorney maybe one can post and shine some light on this. Louisiana is a stand your ground state. Meaning if you feel your life is in danger you have a right to defend yourself. That is Hayes' defense.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73749 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:28 pm to
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Things get muddier now for sure.


Only for dumbasses trying to solve the case hours after it happened on the f@cking internet
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4124 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:32 pm to
What would you do if someone pulls a gun on you. I'm not trying to justify the shooting now, im just asking personally what you do.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4124 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:39 pm to
Thank you see this guy understands.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10517 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:45 pm to
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What would you do if someone pulls a gun on you


Is it your opinion that Smith pulled a gun?
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22483 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:47 pm to
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What would you do if someone pulls a gun on you.


Where has any reports stated from witnesses or officers that Smith pulled his gun? It's obvious that the police didn't see Smith's gun out in the open in his vehicle at the crime scene. This is why a search warrant of Smith's SUV was needed to begin with & why we are just finding out about it. Smith's gun was somewhere in a compartment of his vehicle meaning it wasn't on his person when he was shot.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127744 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Louisiana is a stand your ground state. Meaning if you feel your life is in danger you have a right to defend yourself. That is Hayes' defense.


Yeah, no. That isn't stand your ground. And it's a lot more complicated than that.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58323 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:54 pm to
So it wasnt just cold blooded murder.....hmmmmmm
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 6:54 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22483 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

I'm not an attorney


Yet, you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night, right?

quote:

But the law is the law.


quote:

Louisiana is a stand your ground state. Meaning if you feel your life is in danger you have a right to defend yourself. That is Hayes' defense.



Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22483 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:59 pm to
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So it wasnt just cold blooded murder


So Smith saying & having a gun in a compartment of his vehicle is reason enough for him to be shot & killed? Hayes shot Smith with 5-6 rounds. That alone is going to raise doubts about self defense.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Sprung
In between the cusions
Member since Apr 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 6:59 pm to
Of course it's complicated. I heard that and threw it out for discussion. This is a message board.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4124 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:00 pm to
I was asking for a reason I wasn't saying will smith pulled a gun. I'm asking if you have a gun on you and someone pulls one on you, what do you do?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287923 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:03 pm to
I think this dude gets off pretty light with this now confirmed information
Posted by Sprung
In between the cusions
Member since Apr 2008
1942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:04 pm to
OK smart arse. We all agree it's a fricked up situation and the mean thug should rot in prison. But please enlighten us with your knowledge of the law.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127744 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:11 pm to
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I think this dude gets off pretty light with this now confirmed information



Lol? This changes nothing on its face.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287923 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:13 pm to
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Lol? This changes nothing on its face.




had they not found a gun, do you think there is any chance anyone believes Hayes plea for self defense?
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
Member since Jan 2015
4534 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:15 pm to
Don't mind LE he stated in a thread that got deleted that he was related to hayes. He's trying to prove his innocence.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:16 pm to
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I dont go to New Orleans without my gun, and it's fully loaded. I never intend to use it and hope I don't have to.



Jesus. Where the frick are you going down here that you won't leave your piece at home? I've managed to make it in this city for over 40 years and I have never even owned a gun let alone put one on my hip when I leave the house. I guess I'm the luckiest person on the planet.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
19994 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:22 pm to
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I'd be surprised if he wasn't drinking as well.



Manager at Sake said that none of the Smith party were impaired.
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