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Free Agent Signings In the Payton Era
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:19 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:19 am
Let's list your top ones and worst...
2006: Drew Brees, Scott Fujita, Mark Campbell, Omar Stoutmire, Terrance Copper, Curtis Deloatch, Danny Clark, Billy Miller, Anthony Simmons, Rob Petitti, Chris Horn, Tommy Polley, Jay Foreman
2007: Jason David, Troy Evans, David Patten, Dhani Jones, Kendrick Clancy, Eric Johnson, Kevin Kaesviharn, Brian Simmons
2008: Randall Gay, Aaron Glenn, Mark Brunell, Dan Morgan, Bobby McCray
2009: Darren Sharper, Jabari Greer, Heath Evans, Dan Campbell, Anthony Hargrove, Paul Spicer, Pierson Prioleau, Darnell Dinkins
2010: Clint Ingram, Alex Brown, Jimmy Wilkerson
2011: Darren Sproles, Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin, Will Herring, Olin Kreutz, John Kasay, Korey Hall, John Gilmore, Turk McBride
2012: Curtis Lofton, Ben Grubbs, Chris Chamberlain, David Hawthorne, Brodrick Bunkley, Rafael Bush, Elbert Mack
2013: Keenan Lewis, Benjamin Watson, Victor Butler, Jim Leonhard
2014: Marcus Ball, Jairus Byrd, Jonathan Goodwin, Champ Bailey, Erik Lorig
2015: C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner, Kyle Wilson, Anthony Spencer, Joe Morgan
2016: James Laurinaitis, Nick Fairley, Craig Robertson, Nathan Stupar, Erik Harris, Josh Scobee, Coby Fleener
2006: Drew Brees, Scott Fujita, Mark Campbell, Omar Stoutmire, Terrance Copper, Curtis Deloatch, Danny Clark, Billy Miller, Anthony Simmons, Rob Petitti, Chris Horn, Tommy Polley, Jay Foreman
2007: Jason David, Troy Evans, David Patten, Dhani Jones, Kendrick Clancy, Eric Johnson, Kevin Kaesviharn, Brian Simmons
2008: Randall Gay, Aaron Glenn, Mark Brunell, Dan Morgan, Bobby McCray
2009: Darren Sharper, Jabari Greer, Heath Evans, Dan Campbell, Anthony Hargrove, Paul Spicer, Pierson Prioleau, Darnell Dinkins
2010: Clint Ingram, Alex Brown, Jimmy Wilkerson
2011: Darren Sproles, Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin, Will Herring, Olin Kreutz, John Kasay, Korey Hall, John Gilmore, Turk McBride
2012: Curtis Lofton, Ben Grubbs, Chris Chamberlain, David Hawthorne, Brodrick Bunkley, Rafael Bush, Elbert Mack
2013: Keenan Lewis, Benjamin Watson, Victor Butler, Jim Leonhard
2014: Marcus Ball, Jairus Byrd, Jonathan Goodwin, Champ Bailey, Erik Lorig
2015: C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner, Kyle Wilson, Anthony Spencer, Joe Morgan
2016: James Laurinaitis, Nick Fairley, Craig Robertson, Nathan Stupar, Erik Harris, Josh Scobee, Coby Fleener
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:22 am to blueslover
When you look at the entire body of work, the Payton/Loomis FA history really isnt as bad as people paint it out to be. Yes, he did give some awful contracts but that is in hindsight.
For example, Bryd was one of the highest graded safeties in the league when we signed him. But overall, they really have brought in some solid players and contributors.
For example, Bryd was one of the highest graded safeties in the league when we signed him. But overall, they really have brought in some solid players and contributors.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:24 am to blueslover
Brees of course
I go Greer and Sharper next. Defense has been overall poor but they scored a year of magic out of old Sharper. Greer was not a big name but came in and solidified a perpetually weak area
Sproles my #4, a perfect piece for a Payton offense and provided a little return game juice
Homeboy Randall Gay came in and was very solid too
For the money versus production I count Byrd as the worst
Jason David and Brandon Browner were two very special cases of dreadful flops
Not big money but I hated Laurinaitis too. Everyone on the planet said he was washed up, and he was.
I go Greer and Sharper next. Defense has been overall poor but they scored a year of magic out of old Sharper. Greer was not a big name but came in and solidified a perpetually weak area
Sproles my #4, a perfect piece for a Payton offense and provided a little return game juice
Homeboy Randall Gay came in and was very solid too
For the money versus production I count Byrd as the worst
Jason David and Brandon Browner were two very special cases of dreadful flops
Not big money but I hated Laurinaitis too. Everyone on the planet said he was washed up, and he was.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:34 am to blueslover
Darren Sharper, Jabari Greer, Scott Fujita, Darren Sproles, Curtis Lofton, Benjamin Watson, Nick Fairley, Craig Robertson, Nathan Stupar
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:36 am to blueslover
quote:
Jason David and Brandon Browner were two very special cases of dreadful flops
Kreutz was an underrated flop. He got revenge on the Bears and retired like one week later. Total dick move.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:49 am to BlacknGold
quote:
For example, Bryd was one of the highest graded safeties in the league when we signed him. But overall, they really have brought in some solid players and contributors.
People shite on the Byrd signing, but to be honest I would place the blame less on that and more on the failure to put him in the right situation.
Our chief need at the time of that signing was playmakers who can take the ball. Byrd did that in spades in Buffalo. You can see that he is not playing the same role now that he did with the Bills just by watching his highlights from then and watching him play now. He has not been used correctly.
It was a good signing, a good overall coaching staff would be reaping rewards from it now.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:51 am to blueslover
The 2007 signings 
Posted on 2/24/17 at 10:59 am to Rand AlThor
10 Best:
1. Brees
2. Fujita
3. Sharper
4. Greer
5. Sproles
6. Lewis
7. Fairley
8. Watson
9. Gay
10. McCray/Hargrove
10 Worst:
1. Browner
2. David
3. Byrd
4. Hawthorne
5. Lofton
6. Kaesviharn
7. Spiller
8. Simmons
9. Fleener
10. Laurinitis
Lofton and Hawthorne are underrated in how shitty they were as signings because they're overshadowed by David, Browner, etc. The fact that we kept pushing their money made it worse.
Lofton is one of the most overrated Saints ever. He was pretty terrible. The fact that he lasted one year after the Saints proves it.
Grubbs was a tough one because he had a few good years then fell off completely.
1. Brees
2. Fujita
3. Sharper
4. Greer
5. Sproles
6. Lewis
7. Fairley
8. Watson
9. Gay
10. McCray/Hargrove
10 Worst:
1. Browner
2. David
3. Byrd
4. Hawthorne
5. Lofton
6. Kaesviharn
7. Spiller
8. Simmons
9. Fleener
10. Laurinitis
Lofton and Hawthorne are underrated in how shitty they were as signings because they're overshadowed by David, Browner, etc. The fact that we kept pushing their money made it worse.
Lofton is one of the most overrated Saints ever. He was pretty terrible. The fact that he lasted one year after the Saints proves it.
Grubbs was a tough one because he had a few good years then fell off completely.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:01 am to blueslover
quote:Forgot to put 'Toast' in the middle of his name.
Jason David
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:07 am to blueslover
In all seriousness tho, they haven't done as bad as people think they have. It's just the fact that they've flopped on the big names (Byrd, Spiller, Browner, Laurinaitis). Top 5 best signings IMO are 1.) Brees 2.) Sharper 3.) Sproles 4.) Greer 5.) Fairley
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:34 am to blueslover
Should probably include a list of veterans that were traded for with picks also.
Guys like Ellerbe, Shockey, Vilma, Unger, Haralson, Hooman, etc.
Those seem to work for the better for the most part.
Guys like Ellerbe, Shockey, Vilma, Unger, Haralson, Hooman, etc.
Those seem to work for the better for the most part.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:46 am to bonethug0108
Have to throw this in that I just read today...
A good example from last spring: the Saints overpaying for yet another skill player while ignoring their porous defense. Who really wanted to pay Coby Fleener $36 million over five years with $18 million guaranteed? Fleener delivered New Orleans eight starts and 50 catches; meanwhile, their defense kept getting torched partly because they shorted it by $36 million. Trust me, nobody else was ponying up that money for an oversize inside slot receiver. But the Saints ignored Fleener’s tell and lost the pot.
4 Rules of Free Agency
A good example from last spring: the Saints overpaying for yet another skill player while ignoring their porous defense. Who really wanted to pay Coby Fleener $36 million over five years with $18 million guaranteed? Fleener delivered New Orleans eight starts and 50 catches; meanwhile, their defense kept getting torched partly because they shorted it by $36 million. Trust me, nobody else was ponying up that money for an oversize inside slot receiver. But the Saints ignored Fleener’s tell and lost the pot.
4 Rules of Free Agency
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:48 am to bonethug0108
Don't forget that TE, not Hooman, we got from NE. He was pretty good too.
Billy Miller wasn't half bad either.
Billy Miller wasn't half bad either.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:59 am to LlyodChristmas
Every time I see Jason David name I have a visual imagage of burnt toast. What makes it worse is that Browner was more frustrating than Burnt Toast Jr. Browner was a liability every single play because he was so ignorant.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 4:18 pm to C3W
Jason David > Brandon Browner.
David sucked but was a good guy and it ate him up that he couldn't perform.
Browner is a worthless a-hole.
David sucked but was a good guy and it ate him up that he couldn't perform.
Browner is a worthless a-hole.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:32 am to blueslover
2015 has to be the worst!!
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