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Posted on 6/17/09 at 1:40 am to
Posted by Hideo Nomo
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 1:40 am to
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Chad you're absolutely right, but the fact that he had alchohol in his system changes everything.


It doesn't make him a menace to society.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 2:43 am to
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HE frickING KILLED A DUDE!


So, if someone runs a red light, then hits you, and they die in the crash, did you kill someone?
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 6:50 am to
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He's only in trouble because he has a little bit too much to drink. But the end result of what happened would have been the same if he was not intoxicated and donte probably wouldn't have been in any legal trouble. fricking dude was on the interstate.


So if it was say, your son or dad or brother that he ran over, would you still have the same opinion? Even after Donte' was quotead as saying "Well, I flashed my lights at him and he wasn't even in a crosswalk". That tells me Donte' clearly saw the guy and just kept on trucking till he trucked right over a man.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 6:51 am to
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So, if someone runs a red light, then hits you, and they die in the crash, did you kill someone?


worst analogy in the history of anologies.

when someone RUNS OVER A PERSON WHILE DRIVING then they've killed someone.

i really don't see how people can defend this.
Posted by Farva
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:03 am to
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That tells me Donte' clearly saw the guy and just kept on trucking till he trucked right over a man.


Lol! If this was the case, I'm pretty sure he would have been charged with murder. This thread is hilarious.
Posted by lpd1975
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 7:24 am to
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fricking dude was on the interstate.
It wasn't an Interstate highway. He was running to catch a bus. I don't know of any Interstate that there are bus stops on.

But your point is still very valid. It just didn't need any embellishment.
Posted by SJS Eagle 85
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:30 am to
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So, if someone runs a red light, then hits you, and they die in the crash, did you kill someone?
What does this even mean? That's not even comparable.

He ended a man's life. He was driving impaired. The man wasn't running across the interstate dodging 70 mph traffic like Frogger. He was crossing a street much like Florida Blvd. to get to a bus.

Donte' claims he saw the man crossing and flashed his lights at him. This leads me to believe one of two things:
a) Donte' saw the man, flashed his lights, and hit the man anyway without swerving and hitting his brakes which would basically be Murder 2.
b) He's lying and never saw the man because he was too drunk.
I think that b) is more likely and while tragic for both sides should still be punishable by more than 30 days.

Posted by SJS Eagle 85
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:35 am to
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A lot of you have probably drank or know someone who has drank and drove. This really could happen to anyone.

Are you saying there's nothing wrong with this because if you kill someone while driving under the influence it's OK because there was no intent? I can't even begin to go into how fricking stupid that is.
Posted by simmons2112
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 8:58 am to
Donte was drunk, saw the dude, flashed his lights at him, ran over him, left the scene......came back later and said he did it.

Dude needs more than 30 days. You or I, regardless of the circumstances, would have gotten 10 years for running over a guy drunk. Bottomline.
Posted by Farva
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 9:25 am to
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Donte was drunk, saw the dude, flashed his lights at him, ran over him, left the scene......came back later and said he did it.

Dude needs more than 30 days. You or I, regardless of the circumstances, would have gotten 10 years for running over a guy drunk. Bottomline.


For those saying sports stars get off easy in our judicial system, how do you square Stallworth's plea with the Vick situation? The system either vilifies and throws the book at high profile athletes (see Vick, Rae Carruth, Mike Tyson), or it lets them off with a slap on the wrist, if that (see Stallworth, Ray Lewis, OJ).

So, why the discrepancy?

Perhaps prosecutorial discretion and/or weak vs. strong facts?
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 9:30 am to
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Dude needs more than 30 days. You or I, regardless of the circumstances, would have gotten 10 years for running over a guy drunk. Bottomline.



No he does not need more than 30 days. The punishment fit the crime and I'll tell you why:

a/ because the family is a bigger piece of shite than you can claim stallworthless to be because they put a price tag on that guys death. this is the number one reason that his sentence is justified. because the family agreed to it, so do I.

b/ law is corrupt, and can be bought with money, power, votes for office, etc.....

c/ I am pretty sure that he did not leave the scene and come back later. He called the authorities himself, never wavered in his story, fessed up, said he was coming from a party where he was drinking, and admited to the crime from the get go.

d/ doesn't have a history of trouble. may only serve 30 days in prison, but will be on house arrest for 2 years, and probation for 8. also got 1000 hours of community service, life ban from driving, has to attend a rehab program, etc... not to mention the fact that he has to live with killing another innocent human being. I think that alone will bother him for the rest of his life.

e/ it was neglegent, not premeditated. I highly doubt that he woke up and decided that he would go out and look for an innocent person to run over and kill with his car.

f/ if you were not a witness, you cannot put 100% of the ACCIDENT on Stallworth. Many people every year die in auto/pedestrian accidents where the driver was not at fault. This dude really could have walked out in front of his path in a hurry to get somewhere and is partly to blame for his own death if he in fact did that.

g/ had stallworth not been drinking, this wouldn't even merrit discussion. it would just be deemed an unfortunate accident and, oh well, move on. (that's my take on it as stands now).





...and yes, you and I would get the shaft because, I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't have millions to buy out the family. Oh well, money talks, killers walk......
This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 10:49 am
Posted by lpd1975
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 9:39 am to
All of the post above by Whodatfan expresses my opinon on the case.
Posted by simmons2112
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 9:40 am to
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because the family is a bigger piece of shite than you can claim stallworthless to be because they put a price tag on that guys death. this is the number one reason that his sentence is justified. because the family agreed to it, so do I.


The family agreed to the cash settlement with Stallworth. They may have agreed with 30 days but who cares.....in a criminal case the family of the killed doesn't get to decide what justice is.

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it was neglegent, not premeditated. I highly doubt that he woke up and decided that he would go out and look for an innocent person to run over and kill with his car.


Did i say the guy should get 1st degree murder? Driving while drunk and killing a man (after seeing him and flashing your lights at him) sounds like manslaughter to me and carries about a 15 year sentence. he should ahve gotten 10 years just like Leon Lett should have gotten.

I'd like to see stats on people arrested for similar killings and see what they got. bet it wasn't 30 days.

Watch and see what the boater out on False River gets.....bet it isn't 30 days for killing those kids.

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I am pretty sure that he did not leave the scene and come back later. He called the authorities himself, never wavered in his story, fessed up, said he was coming from a party where he was drinking, and admited to the crime from the get go.


Dude, I heard all of the tapes of the people calling in about the dead guy. They also said DS never called police. He drove off and came back.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:24 am to
For all those defending Donte on this... Donte did not committ any driving violations in hitting this guy EXCEPT for having too much alcohol in his system but I can bet your arse donte wasn't "DRUNK". If Donte hit a person in a crosswalk, donte would have been wrong in the driving but he wasn't in this case.


Nothing was intentional in this, the person crossing the fricking interstate was drunk too and Donte even tried to warn this fricker with his lights of getting the frick out the way.


It's a shitty law to put all the blame on the intoxicated driver in a situation like this. And to make it clear for everyone, Donte only has to serve 24 days in prison actually.

And if i was the family of the "victim", I would have taken the damn money too. And if I was Donte in this situation, I would have thrown out the money as well. And if I was the drunk pedestrian, I would have gotten the frick out of the way but I wouldnt' have even been in that fricking position for starters.

BOOOM BITCHES BOOM.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:30 am to
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It doesn't make him a menace to society.


what are talking about?

who said anything about Donte being a menace to society?

Posted by simmons2112
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:42 am to
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I can bet your arse donte wasn't "DRUNK".


According to the law, he was drunk. Let's see what the False River boater gets for killing those kids.

Should he get 30 days too?

A person is dead and intent has nothing to do with it. Someone has to pay, and if it were you or I, we'd be serving 5 to 10 large.

So when this happens to you, yell out Donte's name while they drag you out to serve your 10 in a federal pound you in the arse prison, OK?
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:47 am to
I bet your arse if you paid the grieving family and court/lawyers millions of dollars, you'd get 30 days. Well, maybe a little more cause you aren't an NFL player, but you get the point.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:47 am to
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According to the law, he was drunk.


Legally, not bodily. Same outcome would have happened if he was drunk or not.

quote:

Let's see what the False River boater gets for killing those kids.


I don't know any particulars so i can't comment on that. But I will say driving a car down the interstate is a bit different than driving a boat in false river with all the skiers and what not.

quote:


A person is dead and intent has nothing to do with it.


So if someone jumps out in front of your car while driving along the interstate, and you did nothing wrong and couldn't avoid it, I guess you should pay for that too.

quote:

So when this happens to you, yell out Donte's name while they drag you out to serve your 10 in a federal pound you in the arse prison, OK?


I'm more likely to pull a Mel Gibson and scream "FREEEEEDDOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM"


This post was edited on 6/17/09 at 10:48 am
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/17/09 at 10:54 am to
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Legally, not bodily. Same outcome would have happened if he was drunk or not.


I definitely agree with this. These days, if you wet your lips with a beer you can be called drunk/imapaired. And I agree that the law should be harsh, but I am pretty confident that Donte was not "rack'em willie" drunk. I doubt that he was shite/piss himself drunk, and I doubt that he was passed out drunk and driving. He was just in the worst possible senerio for his situation. The most unluckiest, unfortunately.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22094 posts
Posted on 6/17/09 at 11:01 am to
whodat, the admins just pulled my sig pic 5 minutes ago, saying it was innapropriate.

I guess having a girl in a thong for a sic pic is now illegal.

If not, then I think I was singled out... but have no idea why?

all good though. I love my Vaughn just as much
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