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Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:25 pm to LSUgrad88
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And the fact that at times when he played (not as much this year) he was a force.
He was invisible this year and was benched in favor of an udfa, but someone is going to break the bank on him?
Biggest disappointment is that he hasn’t developed any pass rush moves. He looks like he just tries to overpower his guy every time.
He’ll get a one year incentive heavy deal from us or someone else.
This post was edited on 2/10/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 2/11/23 at 2:52 am to Peter167
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You seriously wouldn't trade a third for Derek Carr?? I think he's way better than the guys you have now especially if he had a good coach.
He won't have a good coach, so I guess this means don't get Carr.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:39 am to ForeverLSU95
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Let's say we trade a 4th round pick for Carr. And lose Davenport for $16mil per year.
we lose a 4th but likely gain a 3rd in compensatory picks for Davenport since we didn't "SIGN" someone of equal value.
But let's say we just sign Carr. Then Carr and Davenport cancel each other out and we get no pick.
This is not even counting based on speculation that a trade for him would also reduce our cap hit.
We trade a 4th, get Carr, a 3rd and more cap room
VS
signing Carr, less cap room and no improved pick.
We are not trading for Carr. He will be cut..
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:43 am to Proximo
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Low iq poster that doesn’t understand the money side
Explain the "money side"
Carr has to re-work his deal if he gets dealt here or he has to sign a new deal if he's a FA. You think there's going to be a large delta in those 2 contracts?
LV is already eating the pro-ration on his signing bonus no matter what, in either scenario.
*ETA: is there some assumption that LV will eat some of his guaranteed money which will cause him to give us a deal, or something?
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/11/23 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Carr has to re-work his deal if he gets dealt here or he has to sign a new deal if he's a FA. You think there's going to be a large delta in those 2 contracts?
Why would he rework his deal? If he refuses to blink, Raiders pay 40 a year the next three years. Whoever trades for him would have the same issue. . If/when he gets cut, he’s the top available qb at the most important position in the league where there are 7-8 teams that desperately need a qb.
It’s gonna be blood in the water for sharks.
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:36 pm to Townedrunkard
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Why would he rework his deal? If he refuses to blink, Raiders pay 40 a year the next three years.
His base is like 32.9M. How do we fit that into our cap situation?
The new contract is for us, not him
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:20 am to Townedrunkard
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Why would he rework his deal?
Because he already has money, andhe wants to win. Plus, he can build a brand that's more lucrative if he wins. Think Brady, and to a lesser degree, Brees...
Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:46 am to jrobic4
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Because he already has money, andhe wants to win. Plus, he can build a brand that's more lucrative if he wins. Think Brady, and to a lesser degree, Brees...
Wait so you think he's going to take below market money to go to New Orleans?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Wait so you think he's going to take below market money to go to New Orleans?
You think one 7-10 season has reverted the Saints back to being on Jets/Lions level?
Posted on 2/12/23 at 1:32 pm to WicKed WayZ
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You think one 7-10 season has reverted the Saints back to being on Jets/Lions level?
No, but Brees didn't even take a discount for us. Why would Carr?
And my general argument is we need to revert to 3-14 Saints for a couple seasons until we can get our affairs in order, for the long-term sake of the franchise.
Posted on 2/12/23 at 1:49 pm to ForeverLSU95
Signing Derek Carr is a perfect move to stay middling indefinitely. Evidence: his entire career.
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