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re: FalconsLife gems for Week 1
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:22 pm to Patrick O Rly
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:22 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Rob Ryan and his defense is a joke. This is still the same gimp defense that was number 32 a couple years ago. Their secondary is all hype and laughable. I call their bluff and expect Ryan to throw all over the place thus Sunday.
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:25 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:44 pm to Patrick O Rly
I tried looking for a gem on that site...but it was just a sad sad place and not somewhere I wanted to be...God Bless TD.com
Falconslife is the website the Falcon fans deserve.
Falconslife is the website the Falcon fans deserve.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 2:48 pm to partywiththelombardi
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Falconslife is the website the Falcon fans deserve.
Wonderfully said.
Cheers!
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:06 pm to soccerfüt
Falcon fans are garbage.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:26 pm to Chadwick
Omfg. This thread:
LINK
There is way too much to quote. I mean. frick. Just read.
LINK
There is way too much to quote. I mean. frick. Just read.
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People talk about our running gam and our oline but the saints are just as bad... if not worse.
Their running backs suck
Their run blocking sucks ( was worse than ours last year)
Their line is not particularly good at pass blocking ( Brees was also sacked a lot last year and was hurried more than people think).
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I actually think it's pretty even. They just have better coaching overall. Cam Jordan was considered a bust before that fat **** arrived. And Loomis is 100000x the GM TD is.
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QBs are a push
RBs a push
WRs Atl
TE NO
OL push, maybe NO
DL NO
LBs Atl
CBs Atl
S NO
I don't see a significantly better roster
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They are better coached, have better pass rushers and I feel they have a mental/confidence intangible over us. Other than that, it's about even. Oh and they do have the Katrina refs, that seem to always call games in their favor.
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They swapped Sproles for Cooks whereas I think the Falcons improved significantly.
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I don't see nobody on their roster better than the players we have LOL…. C'mon now we are talking about the Saints.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:55 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:LOL
QBs are a push
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:05 am to Fun Bunch
QBs NO
RBs NO
WRs Push though we are deeper and they are better at the top end
TE NO
OL NO
DL NO
LBs Push(counting Galette as more of a lineman)
CBs Push
S NO
RBs NO
WRs Push though we are deeper and they are better at the top end
TE NO
OL NO
DL NO
LBs Push(counting Galette as more of a lineman)
CBs Push
S NO
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:08 am to Fun Bunch
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People talk about our running gam and our oline but the saints are just as bad... if not worse.
Their running backs suck
Their run blocking sucks ( was worse than ours last year)
Their line is not particularly good at pass blocking ( Brees was also sacked a lot last year and was hurried more than people think).
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They just have better coaching overall. Cam Jordan was considered a bust before that fat **** arrived. And Loomis is 100000x the GM TD is.
shite you think?
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QBs are a push
I won't even respond
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RBs a push
Khiry/Ingram/PT23>>>>>SJax/Jizz etc.
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WRs Atl
Saints have more quality.
Drops off bad after Julio(Roddy is getting old)
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OL push, maybe NO
It's no push
ATL has one of the worst lines in the league. Saints have an up and coming LT,Solid guards,and the highest rated RT.
They also have depth.
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CBs Atl
LMAO
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I don't see a significantly better roster
You have us beat virtually nowhere.
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They are better coached, have better pass rushers and I feel they have a mental/confidence intangible over us. Other than that, it's about even. Oh and they do have the Katrina refs, that seem to always call games in their favor.
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They swapped Sproles for Cooks whereas I think the Falcons improved significantly.
Someone forgot Byrd
Where on earth did they(ATL) improve?
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I don't see nobody on their roster better than the players we have LOL…. C'mon now we are talking about the Saints.
LMAO they have a deeper and more complete team that's not coached by a dumbass.
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:09 am to bonethug0108
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WRs Push though we are deeper and they are better at the top end
Come on now
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:13 am to Bigpoppat
quote:No you come on. Julio is clearly better than anyone we have but White and Colston are a push at best at this point(with Colston being the one that may be a tad better).
Come on now
After that we have Stills, Cooks, and Morgan who are all better than Douglas, and they fall off even more after that with 3 special teamers.
So yes, it's a fricking push. They have 1 guy that is clearly better and then another guy that was great but is on the downside and then a whole lot of meh.
We have one guy that is borderline pro bowl every year(imo not even borderline; he should have went at least twice) and 3 pretty damn good up and comers.
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 12:17 am
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:20 am to bonethug0108
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Generally speaking, when a QB collapses, it is oftentimes quick and emphatic. Look at Schaub, who fell off the table at 32 last season. And Brady appears to be in decline. He went from a +50 in 2012 to +20 in 2013.
New Orleans should have protected themselves by drafting a QB the way that NE always has.
This dude thinks drew will fall off
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The Ain'ts D will surprise a lot of people this year, and not in a way the Ain'ts will enjoy. The Ain'ts beat up on bad O-Lines by blitzing the crap out of them, they got beat up themselves whenever they went up against good lines, plus they got lucky with a lot of turnovers on top of it. As we learned last year Turnovers are fickle. This year they won't necessarily be up against poor o-lines, and if the turnovers don't keep bouncing their way they'll be back to the bottom of the league, watch. Rex's brother is the redhead of the family make no mistake, he was nothing in Dallas.
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 12:22 am
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:26 am to LosLobos111
quote:Holy shite this is the exact opposite of what happened.
The Ain'ts D will surprise a lot of people this year, and not in a way the Ain'ts will enjoy. The Ain'ts beat up on bad O-Lines by blitzing the crap out of them, they got beat up themselves whenever they went up against good lines, plus they got lucky with a lot of turnovers on top of it. As we learned last year Turnovers are fickle. This year they won't necessarily be up against poor o-lines, and if the turnovers don't keep bouncing their way they'll be back to the bottom of the league, watch. Rex's brother is the redhead of the family make no mistake, he was nothing in Dallas.
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:27 am to bonethug0108
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Stills, Cooks, and Morgan who are all better than Douglas,
They CAN be better than Douglas, but none are there yet.
Douglas proved to be the lone bright spot in ATL's dumpster fire season last year.
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:30 am to Bigpoppat
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Rob Ryan and his defense is a joke. This is still the same gimp defense that was number 32 a couple years ago. Their secondary is all hype and laughable. I call their bluff and expect Ryan to throw all over the place thus Sunday.
Someone is sadly mistaken
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:34 am to Bigpoppat
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They CAN be better than Douglas, but none are there yet.
Douglas proved to be the lone bright spot in ATL's dumpster fire season last year.
Douglas was all they had outside of Gonzalez and a hobbled White for most of the season. If you get targeted 133 times you damn well better have 85 catches. And the 12.6 ypc and 2 TDs aren't exactly fear inducing.
Douglas basically became a Colston-lite last year(a chain mover without being a red zone threat).
Stills is clearly already better and Morgan just needs to prove he can do what he did in 2012 more consistently. And if you don't think Cooks will be better than Douglas than I don't know what to tell you.
I could probably find a ton of guys that had 1,000 yard seasons just because that's all the team had. It doesn't mean that guy was great.
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Not saying they are the same type of player, but he is Lance Moore level at best. Moore had a great year too when he had to be our top option. That doesn't mean he can do that on a consistent basis or that just because the numbers look good teams have to double him.
Both of those guys did well because teams didn't respect them enough to double them. And neither guy is a deep threat(at least not on any kind of consistent basis). They're also not drawing coverage in the red zone.
There's a lot more than what those pretty numbers for Douglas suggests.
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 12:39 am
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:46 am to bonethug0108
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Stills is clearly already better
Based on what? His 30 career catches and his bum quad?
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Morgan just needs to prove he can do what he did in 2012 more consistently.
A guy who caught 10 passes 2 seasons ago is better than a guy who had over 1,000 yards last season?
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And if you don't think Cooks will be better than Douglas than I don't know what to tell you.
I said he CAN be. Let the kid play a professional down before crowning him. We all thought Lindsay Scott, George Rogers and Vaughn Dunbar would be all pro selections too.
ETA- I realize Rogers made the pro bowl. Not my best example
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 12:51 am
Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:49 am to Bigpoppat
You are defining talent based on production, which can be forced(as it was in Moore's and Douglas' case) and not by the actual talent level.
All 3 of those guys are clearly more talented receivers than Douglas. If you want to extrapolate the numbers they have given Douglas' number of targets last year I assure you they would blow his away(I guess we'll have to wait until the end of this year on Cooks).
All 3 of those guys are clearly more talented receivers than Douglas. If you want to extrapolate the numbers they have given Douglas' number of targets last year I assure you they would blow his away(I guess we'll have to wait until the end of this year on Cooks).
Posted on 9/6/14 at 1:01 am to bonethug0108
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All 3 of those guys are clearly more talented receivers than Douglas
What are you using to justify the statement?
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You are defining talent based on production, which can be forced(as it was in Moore's and Douglas' case) and not by the actual talent level.
Right. JaMarcus Russell had all the talent in the world.
Give me production. The ESPN guys can circle jerk to talent
Posted on 9/6/14 at 1:11 am to Bigpoppat
Two of them have production(doesn't matter how small). They've proven the talent they have and given the opportunities Douglas was afforded last year they could do much better.
If you look at Douglas' production before last year you would never pick him to have that type of year. His proven production was much lower. And given the amount of looks he had he honestly should have done much better but he didn't because he lacks great WR talent. He's an okay guy but he doesn't have the talent to be a great WR.
I don't know what you are looking at when watching Stills and Morgan play that says they cannot be great WRs if we didn't have guys like Graham, Colston, PT, Sproles(last year), etc. eating up targets. Their talent level is clearly above Douglas' when actually watching them play.
And Cooks could be an epic bust, but given what I've seen him do in college(and yes it doesn't always translate so doubt if you want), this kid clearly has more talent also.
We are talking whose receivers are better, not whose receivers have more production. From a talent stand point all those guys are better. We are deeper at WR period. They have the one top shelf guy and things get murky after that.
If you look at Douglas' production before last year you would never pick him to have that type of year. His proven production was much lower. And given the amount of looks he had he honestly should have done much better but he didn't because he lacks great WR talent. He's an okay guy but he doesn't have the talent to be a great WR.
I don't know what you are looking at when watching Stills and Morgan play that says they cannot be great WRs if we didn't have guys like Graham, Colston, PT, Sproles(last year), etc. eating up targets. Their talent level is clearly above Douglas' when actually watching them play.
And Cooks could be an epic bust, but given what I've seen him do in college(and yes it doesn't always translate so doubt if you want), this kid clearly has more talent also.
We are talking whose receivers are better, not whose receivers have more production. From a talent stand point all those guys are better. We are deeper at WR period. They have the one top shelf guy and things get murky after that.
This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 1:12 am
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