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re: could the saints realistically be 13-3...
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:46 am to Sophandros
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:46 am to Sophandros
Yea Im ignorant 
Because I believe the Saints would have won games under make believe situations and NOT by making a FG that would GARANTEE the win. Jesus you are fricking stupid.
Because I believe the Saints would have won games under make believe situations and NOT by making a FG that would GARANTEE the win. Jesus you are fricking stupid.
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:47 am to Catman88
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This isnt an anomoly at all.
You dont recall New England just a couple of years ago missing playoffs and a losing team making it in. How many times have we seen 8-8 and 7-9 teams make the playoffs over better teams?
The fact that NO 7-9 team has ever made the playoffs should clue you in... 8-8 teams have only made it in as wild cards in the past. So yes, it's a fricking anomaly.
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At the very least division winners should not be awarded automatic home games. Thats not a sweeping change. In 2000 Tampa would have been the away team and Philly would have been the home team.
No, you win the division you should get the home game. Provides incentive, and the owners like the home ticket gate revenue, which is the primary reason that it happens.
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A sweeping change would be if the fixed what happened to NE. But that would disolve the divisions.
Nothing bad happened to NE. They didn't make the playoffs because their conference was strong that year. It happens from time to time.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:51 am to Catman88
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Yea Im ignorant
Yes, you are, because the game was not lost solely because of the missed FG. Also, because there are two other games that the team CLEARLY lost, but you refuse to lay the blame at the feet of the parties responsible for THOSE losses. Those were worse losses than the Atlanta game because of the quality of the opponents, yet everyone wants to bash the guy who wasn't on the field to give up 200 yards on the ground, allow the opposition to convert half their 3rd downs and 2 fourth downs, turn the ball over three times, etc.
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Because I believe the Saints would have won games under make believe situations
See my point above. You aren't throwing other players under the bus who CLEARLY lost the other two games for us. Thus, you're a fricktard. Go back to the rant.
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GARANTEE
Case in point.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:51 am to Sophandros
I was referring to the nine or ten 8-8 teams that made the playoffs many of which made the playoffs over better teams. I thought there was 1 team that made it going 7-9. I think we will see that happen this year. Never stated anywhere about division winners being 8-8. I guess you made that one up too.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:51 am to Catman88
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A sweeping change would be if the fixed what happened to NE. But that would disolve the divisions.
They don't have to dissolve the divisions. They can still keep the format that the 4 divisional champs and 2 wildcard teams make the playoffs. They should change the playoff seeding format for the 6 teams solely to W-L records. That way a 13-3 or 12-4 wildcard team would be seeded ahead of a 8-8 divisonal winner.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:53 am to Catman88
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I was referring to the nine or ten 8-8 teams that made the playoffs many of which made the playoffs over better teams.
Name them, and name the better teams that they made them over.
There is ONE previous occurrence: 1985.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:54 am to Sophandros
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At the very least division winners should not be awarded automatic home games. Thats not a sweeping change. In 2000 Tampa would have been the away team and Philly would have been the home team.
No, you win the division you should get the home game. Provides incentive
I don't get this "incentive" argument for giving an absolutely crappy division winner (possibly even with a losing record) a home playoff game against a potentially 13-3 Wildcard team.
Your incentive and ultimate reward is just getting in to the playoffs with such a mediocre team. Why double reward them with a home game on top of that. Seems to make little sense. Take away the home game reward and there's still plenty of incentive and reward in just getting in being so crappy.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:55 am to Sophandros
Do you have a fricking problem reading?? Do you always make shite up? My first post stated that the Saints could have done more but its a undisputable FACT that the Saints would have won the game on that made FG. Only a moron would argue otherwise.
Ohhh sorry left out as fricking 'U' for you. Dumb arse.
The FACT remains that you believe in fairy tails that the Saints would have won based on an improved stat. You garantee the Saints win that game if they gave up less yards. Thats IMPOSSIBLE to claim. you have no fricking clue what would have happened if the Saints gave up less rushing yards. To claim otherwise is absurd.
Ohhh sorry left out as fricking 'U' for you. Dumb arse.
The FACT remains that you believe in fairy tails that the Saints would have won based on an improved stat. You garantee the Saints win that game if they gave up less yards. Thats IMPOSSIBLE to claim. you have no fricking clue what would have happened if the Saints gave up less rushing yards. To claim otherwise is absurd.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:56 am to Tigergreg
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We had plenty of opportunities to put it out of reach whereby needing a FG to win wasn't needed.
Payton wasted a sure opportunity to win the game in overtime by going for a field goal. He had the ball 1st and 10 on the 11 and he fricking decides to for a field goal when he knows damn well he has a kicker who is shaky. You go for a TD in that situation I don't give a frick what the circumstances are. Especially considering the fact Brees had them squealing like livestock at a slaughter house. You fricking kick a field goal only if time is running out or it's 4th down.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:58 am to Catman88
It seems that every year you come on this board and post stupidity. This year is no different. To blame the loss of the game on ONE PLAY is utter ignorance. Yes, I'm upset that Hartley missed the field goal. I'm also upset that we allowed them to drive back down the field and kick their game winner. I'm also upset that we turned the ball over three times.
AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ARIZONA AND CLEVELAND GAMES. This is what's disturbing. You want to lynch a guy who had a hand in not winning the game (Hartley didn't lost the game for us; rather he didn't win it for us), but you want to let other players off for outright losing the games for us in Arizona and versus Cleveland.
AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ARIZONA AND CLEVELAND GAMES. This is what's disturbing. You want to lynch a guy who had a hand in not winning the game (Hartley didn't lost the game for us; rather he didn't win it for us), but you want to let other players off for outright losing the games for us in Arizona and versus Cleveland.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:58 am to Sophandros
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Name them, and name the better teams that they made them over. Oh, wait, you can't.
2008 San Diego WON their division going 8-8
BTW I guess you made that up about NO TEAM EVER WINNING THEIR DIV at 8-8 HUH???
11-5 NE MISSED the Playoffs
2006 NY Giants
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:00 am to Sophandros
I only come to this board every other year? Are you fricking delusional?
LINK to where I BLAMED the loss on GH?
I stated that the Saints would have WON that game if he made the kick and to argue otherwise is retarded. YET you argue otherwise.
LINK to where I BLAMED the loss on GH?
I stated that the Saints would have WON that game if he made the kick and to argue otherwise is retarded. YET you argue otherwise.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:00 am to Sophandros
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You want to lynch a guy who had a hand in not winning the game
YOU REALLY CANT frickING READ CAN YOU?
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:01 am to Sophandros
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8-8 teams have only made it in as wild cards in the past.
So what happend in 2008?
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:02 am to Catman88
OK, so you have TWO occasions in over three decades. To quantify this for you a bit better, there have been well over 200 teams to make the playoffs during that span, and TWICE you've had a .500 team making the playoffs and a "better" team staying at home. Twice. That's LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE TIME. It's an anomaly, plain and simple.
If New England wants to be pissed, be pissed that Brady got hurt.
If New England wants to be pissed, be pissed that Brady got hurt.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:03 am to Sophandros
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To blame the loss of the game on ONE PLAY is utter ignorance.
The fact is that, if Hartley made the FG, we would have won the game, plain and simple. You really can't say, for a fact, that we would have won if we would have given up less rushing yards or less turnovers.
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AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE ARIZONA AND CLEVELAND GAMES.
We screwed the pooch on those games. No excuses.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:03 am to Sophandros
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And let's look at the other games that are keeping us out of first place right now: Arizona and Cleveland. Who are you blaming for those games THAT WE COMPLETELY BEAT OURSELVES IN?
Do you have any fricking clue what "vice versa" means?
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:05 am to Catman88
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LINK to where I BLAMED the loss on GH?
You've been blaming Hartley this entire thread, you moron.
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I stated that the Saints would have WON that game if he made the kick and to argue otherwise is retarded.
I'm not arguing otherwise. I'm telling you that your decision to blame Hartley for the loss is fricking retard, you retard.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:06 am to steelreign
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The fact is that, if Hartley made the FG, we would have won the game, plain and simple
Its this fact that this moron cant get over.
But he wants to argue this fact until he dies.
I never said the reason the Saints lost the game was because of GH. I said that BECAUSE he missed the FG the Saints didnt win. I guess that just doesnt register with some people.
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:06 am to Catman88
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YOU REALLY CANT frickING READ CAN YOU?
Yes, I can read. You and others on this thread blame Hartley for the loss. Plain and simple.
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