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re: Cooks talks about selfishness
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:35 pm to Shiftyplus1
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:35 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Saying Cooks is bettervthan Landry is just....wrong. Landry not only has better numbers across the board, but he has a waaaaay less talented QB throwing him the ball. And Jarvis became a leader on that team immediately, a guy who was more concerned with winning football games than about getting targets.
Explain how Landry has better numbers, because it's extremely difficult to compare a pure slot WR against almost a pure deep threat.
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:43 pm to Jcorye1
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Jarvis has more catches and more yards but less touchdowns with a guy throwing to him that is leagues worse
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:48 pm to Jcorye1
Every heard of Drew Brees, friends?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:49 pm to mylsuhat
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Jarvis has more catches and more yards but less touchdowns with a guy throwing to him that is leagues worse
It doesn't take a lot of skill to throw the ball 6 yards down the field. Landry rarely if ever goes deep, and runs the prototypical slot receive route tree. Those aren't exactly insanely difficult throws for Tanny.
I also enjoy you not posting the most telling stat, targets. Landry got 166 targets in 2015. That is freaking bananas usage for a non-elite WR. If you put Landry on a team with other halfway decent WRs, he's not getting that sort of usage and his stats would fall.
Cooks has a higher yards per game, yards per catch, TD rate, all on 100 less targets over their career. Not that it really means too much, because they are completely different styles of player.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:56 pm to Shiftyplus1
I'd probably be willing to bet that virtually every team in the league would take Cooks ahead of Landry.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 1:58 pm to mylsuhat
The only WR out of that group that has an argument for being better than Cooks is Landry. I'd have Cooks over him, because he has more to his game. The toughness from Landry makes it at least a debate.
Those other guys... no chance in hell are they anywhere near Cooks.
Those other guys... no chance in hell are they anywhere near Cooks.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:01 pm to mylsuhat
Cooks missed like half of his rookie year.
He was headed toward an 850+ yard season. 1k+ if you include rushing
He was headed toward an 850+ yard season. 1k+ if you include rushing
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:46 pm to burke985
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Faster yes ....more talented hell no. Speed does not make u talented
Agreed, Landry does not take plays off and the dude will go get the ball if he has to. He's a man.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:50 pm to KiwiHead
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Agreed, Landry does not take plays off and the dude will go get the ball if he has to. He's a man.
Landry reminds me of Steve Smith without the bad attitude.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:05 pm to t00f
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Landry reminds me of Steve Smith without the bad attitude.
Dude has had multiple run ins with offensive players, was fined 48k for "offensive TD celebrations", fined 24k for an illegal hit on Aaron Williams, and various other minor offenses. He's basically Steve Smith without the sound bites.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:08 pm to Jcorye1
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Dude has had multiple run ins with offensive players, was fined 48k for "offensive TD celebrations", fined 24k for an illegal hit on Aaron Williams, and various other minor offenses. He's basically Steve Smith without the sound bites.
yep, that's what I meant. No way Smith says this afterwards:
"I apologized," Landry said, via the Bills' official website. "I just told him to get better. You never want to see that happen to anybody. ... If I could take that hit back, I would. It's a guy's livelihood."
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:11 pm to t00f
Oh ha. Steve Smith would have just told him to ice up, son.
I still remember Smith, with like a broken shoulder, going after Roman Harper.
I still remember Smith, with like a broken shoulder, going after Roman Harper.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:14 pm to Jcorye1
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:23 pm to CocoLoco
Take your arse back to Carolina and mow my lawn.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:38 pm to Shiftyplus1
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Landry not only has better numbers across the board
Not sure you know the numbers. TDs? yds per catch?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:39 pm to UptownG504
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Every heard of Drew Brees, friends?
Yes he is great Rodgers is better
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:39 pm to mylsuhat
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guy throwing to him that is leagues worse
Tannehill is far from the league worst
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:40 pm to CocoLoco
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Harper deserved it, too. But, he actually ended up going after Malcolm Jenkins instead lol
LINK
Freakin Greer, and LOL Harper. forgot about this.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:50 pm to mylsuhat
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Jarvis has more catches and more yards but less touchdowns with a guy throwing to him that is leagues worse
...and the Saints spread it around more.
From a pure stats perspective, Cooks has outperformed Landry.
If you want to make a case that Landry with Brees would have outperformed Cooks with Brees, go ahead. That's a reasonable opinion. But placing more importance on total catches and very slight yardage advantage over a 3 YPC advantage with double the TDs makes you look foolish.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 5:16 pm to CajunsTigersSaints
quote:He will, when he get's his clock cleaned over the middle. Wait, maybe he won't.
What?!
He must have short term memory loss
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