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re: Armstead weighs in - This is how it’s done
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:38 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:38 pm to Lester Earl
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You choose to live in a bubble & that’s fine if that’s where you feel safe. But when you start to fight it is when you start to sound ignorant
I live in The Texas Hill Country. I have very little reason to leave my bubble. I live here for a reason.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:40 pm to lsupride87
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Yeh he still did a pretty good job of still throwing Brees to the wolves there

Yeah, he did what everyone else did..what a dumbass..what a backhanded comment
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:43 pm to bnb9433
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Armstead weighs in - This is how it’s done
We can just stop doing this. These people who are mad at AK, Thomas, and Jenkins, and pretended to hate Kaepernick because of the flag and military, it’s all because they hate the message. That’s what this is all about.
What we have is a bunch of racist white people who think black people are full of shite. It doesn’t matter that Armstead handled this better than others in your opinion, because the issue is the message.
Colin Kaepernick could have taken a knee in his own yard, these same people would still be mad, cause their problem is with the message. Using the flag and military was just subtle, coded racism by people who hate the message.
All the people who complain that Brees should be allowed to speak his opinion, which isn’t the issue, 100% also hated Thomas, AK, Jenkins, and Jordan before any of this because of them speaking their opinions. Because they hate the message. Jenkins is being called a lefty fascist by people who support a wannabe dictator.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:44 pm to Hazelnut
I asked for specifics. Saying that blacks are in the lower economic brackets as an example of societal oppression without any explanation as to why is just emotionally driven nonsense.
I can tell you why they are, but you won’t like the answer.
I can tell you why they are, but you won’t like the answer.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:44 pm to landrywasbeast30
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We can just stop doing this. These people who are mad at AK, Thomas, and Jenkins, and pretended to hate Kaepernick because of the flag and military, it’s all because they hate the message. That’s what this is all about.
What we have is a bunch of racist white people who think black people are full of shite.

Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:47 pm to landrywasbeast30
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What we have is a bunch of racist white people who think black people are full of shite. It doesn’t matter that Armstead handled this better than others in your opinion, because the issue is the message.

Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:49 pm to sheek
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live in The Texas Hill Country. I have very little reason to leave my bubble. I live here for a reason.
Beautiful area. Out of sight out of mind. You aren’t harming anyone until you inject yourself & push back for no reason other than insecurity
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:50 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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I asked for specifics. Saying that blacks are in the lower economic brackets as an example of societal oppression without any explanation as to why is just emotionally driven nonsense.
So when people give their personal experiences and they are emotional about it, you respond with "Facts over feelings". But when someone gives statistical examples that indicate there is tremendous systemic racism, you say you want specifics?

and if you actually look at the chart, it is not just saying they are in a lower economic bracket. It says that even those that make it out of poverty and get advanced degrees make far less than white people at the same level. How is that not completely damming evidence?
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I can tell you why they are, but you won’t like the answer.
I would love to hear your answer.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:54 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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There is no injustice targeting blacks.
There is no systemic oppression.
It's amazing that people really believe this.
Is it as bad as some people say it is? No. But there is definitely a discrepancy.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:55 pm to Vacherie Saint
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His opinion about respect for the flag has NOTHING to do with race or police brutality.
This isn’t what happened. People like you have just convinced yourselves that this is the issue with what he said so you don’t have to break down the real problem with what he said and how he said it.
Hell, just look at the words being thrown out like “tone deaf”, “insensitive”, “dismissive”. Those are hints as to what the issue is, and again, it wasn’t that he said he stands for the anthem.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 1:56 pm to Hazelnut
You didn’t give any examples that indicated systemic racism
you said blacks are poor and then made the assumption that it is related to racism.
They are poor because they have multiple children out wedlock, have the highest rate of fatherless homes of any race in the world, and do not value education. I could go on, but I suspect I am wasting my time.

They are poor because they have multiple children out wedlock, have the highest rate of fatherless homes of any race in the world, and do not value education. I could go on, but I suspect I am wasting my time.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:01 pm to Hazelnut
quote:Their IQs are lower on average. They have a higher percentage of fatherless households. They commit more than their fair share of violent crimes. Is it racist to point out any of this? Actually, I don't care what your answer to that question is so don't waste your time.
You think that they are predominately the ones on the lower end of society and wealth because they are just losers in life as a whole?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:02 pm to landrywasbeast30
Those words don’t mean a fricking thing and just because you use them, it doesn’t make your argument superior to mine. You people are like children.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:11 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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They are poor because they have multiple children out wedlock, have the highest rate of fatherless homes of any race in the world, and do not value education. I could go on, but I suspect I am wasting my time.
I think there is some truth to that. But do you ever consider that those issues are a result of being continuously held down by a system? If you go to public school funded by property taxes, then you will go to a shitty, underfunded school if you are poor. If you are attending an underfunded school, your chances of improving your intelligence and your awareness overall, significantly decrease. You also severely limit your future earning potential. Well, maybe your parents can instill values in you to overcome that right? Cool. Well what if your parents are uneducated and don't know any better either because of their lack of education for the same reason? or better yet, because when their parents were kids, you had segregated schools (which I think we can agree was racist).
I get there's a level of personal accountability. I really do. I am not saying that we should give people a pass for their individual wrong choices in life. But is it such a crazy idea that we could improve the system that is doing them no favors either? Maybe if we improve the system, they will be able to break that cycle that you mentioned.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:25 pm to Hazelnut
It sounds like what you’re saying is blacks are incapable of success unless we, whites in America, give them the right kind of help. Very racist.
What are your thoughts on school choice?
What are your thoughts on school choice?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:28 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You didn’t give any examples that indicated systemic racism you said blacks are poor and then made the assumption that it is related to racism.
Also, I still don't think you understand this chart or you just haven't explained well why you dismiss it as evidence.
If a black person works hard and receives an advanced degree, why is he, on average making $500k less than a white person with an advanced degree? You can't point to the flaws you pointed to in your last post. Because these people presumably "did it right" and didn't do that shite that you mentioned.
I assume you will point to varying types of "advanced degrees" as your reasoning. But, assuming that even is the case, does that really account for a difference THIS large across all advanced degrees? Or is there something else at play.
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:32 pm to Hazelnut
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. But when someone gives statistical examples that indicate there is tremendous systemic racism
Where is that again? I don't see a single actual data point, I see a half arse graph from WaPo
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How is that not completely damming evidence?

Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:32 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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It sounds like what you’re saying is blacks are incapable of success unless we, whites in America, give them the right kind of help. Very racist.
I am saying that any faction of people that are caught in the cycle that black people are caught in would be, as a group, much less capable of having the same success as those outside of that cycle.
Whereas it sounds like you are saying the cycle is their fault in the first place because they have always been too dumb to realize they are hurting themselves. Which actually is very racist.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
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I see a half arse graph from WaPo
who got it from the Fed
Posted on 6/4/20 at 2:33 pm to Hazelnut
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I assume you will point to varying types of "advanced degrees" as your reasoning. But, assuming that even is the case, does that really account for a difference THIS large across all advanced degrees? Or is there something else at play.
A white MD is going to outearn the frick out of a black african studies phd. You need to compare apples to apples if you'd like to try to make a point.
ETA: I have friends that are married and both with advance degrees in social work. I make more than them combined with just a BS. You can't just assume all degrees are equal
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 2:55 pm
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