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Allen from Alabama
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:53 pm
Need Allen the DE/DT from Alabama
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:04 am to Drillingman
We're drafting fournette sorry bro
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:12 am to philly444
Leonard won't help this team. Our OL will be worse next year than this year. Evans and Streif will probably need to finally be replaced. Jury will still be out on Project Peat!! I think we will have to go OT.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:18 am to moock blackjack
People can't say cut Ingram or he sucks and not think Fournette would help. Sign a free agent guard and we have a very good line with Armstead, Peat, Unger, and Streif.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 7:43 am to Drillingman
Lets see what we do in Free Agency first. That will give everyone a better Idea what position we might target during draft.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:31 pm to moock blackjack
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I think we will have to go OT.
We need a pass rusher way more than we need an OL or RB.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:58 pm to Drillingman
Allen, Rankins and Jordan? I can dig that.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:05 pm to philly444
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We're drafting fournette sorry bro
I hope you do. The Saints will underutilize him and he won't fare well with that OLine. As a Falcons fan, I'm all on board with this move.
However, I would HATE if the Saints got J. Allen or even a Tim Williams from Bama. Either of those guys to go along with a healthy Rankins at DT and Cam Jordon on the opposite DE would make your Dline extremely tough.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 1:10 pm to Saint1032
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Lets see what we do in Free Agency first. That will give everyone a better Idea what position we might target during draft.
This is the correct answer of course but it would lead to a drop in around 420 threads and about 6,300 post
Posted on 10/26/16 at 9:49 am to Drillingman
I like Allen a lot. Big enough to stop the run & can also get to the qb. The only concern is that he plays in a 3-4 at Bama, but truly elite players can usually make the transition.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:00 am to GMoney2600
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The only concern is that he plays in a 3-4 at Bama,
Not at all. They "technically" run a 3-4 but it's a 4-3 50% of the time as Tim Williams gets down in a 4 point stance as a DE frequently. The other 50% of the time he's standing at the DE position and either blitzes or drops in zone.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:04 am to DoubleDown
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The only concern is that he plays in a 3-4 at Bama,
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Not at all.
Okay
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They "technically" run a 3-4
Wait what?
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4 but it's a 4-3 50% of the time
Ok, so then a good bit and certainly "not at all".
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:05 am to DoubleDown
I'll take your word for it, b/c you watch Bama a lot more than I do. I usually watch about 1 quarter a game when they play. I'd be perfectly happy with Allen, but he won't be standing up at all in the Saints defense & probably won't drop into coverage at all either. We need someone that can do the same thing that Cam Jordan does.
I've seen Tim Williams projected to go pretty high in the draft as well. Is he just a pass rushing specialist or can he stop the run as well? Someone will take him in the 1st, but I hope it isn't the Saints if all he can do is get to the qb. 1 trick ponies shouldn't be taken early in the 1st. More like late 1st round at best...like Bruce Irvin when the Seahawks drafted him.
I've seen Tim Williams projected to go pretty high in the draft as well. Is he just a pass rushing specialist or can he stop the run as well? Someone will take him in the 1st, but I hope it isn't the Saints if all he can do is get to the qb. 1 trick ponies shouldn't be taken early in the 1st. More like late 1st round at best...like Bruce Irvin when the Seahawks drafted him.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:12 am to TigerBait1127
Kinda phrased it poorly on my part but he was saying with certainty that his concern was they only run a 3-4 but that's not always the case.
I think you got my point just splitting hairs.
I think you got my point just splitting hairs.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:14 am to GMoney2600
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I've seen Tim Williams projected to go pretty high in the draft as well. Is he just a pass rushing specialist or can he stop the run as well?
Allen > Williams in my opinion.
Allen can do it all and is heavier to my knowledge. Tim Williams has more speed and is slightly thinner but is purely a sack specialist unless the RB just runs right into his arms. However, Williams can cover some TEs and all.
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:15 am to DoubleDown
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I think you got my point just splitting hairs.
And I'd think he'd be a great fit, especially with the meltdown this board would have
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:18 am to DoubleDown
Allen has like 40 pounds on Williams. Tim Williams would get his shite pushed in trying to stop the run at DE in the NFL. Allen should be able to more than hold his own at 290 pounds.
Myles Garrett will be gone by the time we pick, & Allen could easily be gone as well. Derek Barnett(265 pounds) from Tennessee is the other DE that we should target in the mid 1st round(I assume our draft position in the 1st will be around 10-15). I'd be very happy if we could get either Allen or Barnett.
The addition of a legit DE would complete our DLine. Assuming the Saints re-sign Fairley, to go along with Rankins, Davison, & Onyemata at DT...look out. Also, add Kikaha to the mix as a pass rusher.
We also need another LB to go alongside Robertson. If we can stay healthy at DB for a change next year...this could be a legit defense for us.
Myles Garrett will be gone by the time we pick, & Allen could easily be gone as well. Derek Barnett(265 pounds) from Tennessee is the other DE that we should target in the mid 1st round(I assume our draft position in the 1st will be around 10-15). I'd be very happy if we could get either Allen or Barnett.
The addition of a legit DE would complete our DLine. Assuming the Saints re-sign Fairley, to go along with Rankins, Davison, & Onyemata at DT...look out. Also, add Kikaha to the mix as a pass rusher.
We also need another LB to go alongside Robertson. If we can stay healthy at DB for a change next year...this could be a legit defense for us.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 10:28 am to GMoney2600
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Tim Williams would get his shite pushed in trying to stop the run at DE in the NFL
I don't disagree. He doesn't even excel at it in College. He's definitely not asked to stop the run at bama though. His forte is pass rush and his technique dominates guys that outweigh him by 80+ lbs.
ETA: Just imagining the Saints with Rankins at DT, Allen and Jordan at DE. Ugh. No thanks.
Take back everything I've said. Allen sucks. He's terrible. Worst player in CFB. He's a total bust.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/26/16 at 11:19 am to philly444
Building the defense is the number 1 priority
Posted on 10/26/16 at 7:30 pm to Drillingman
Besides Dareus name one Mama Dlineman that has produced in the NFL.
This post was edited on 10/26/16 at 7:31 pm
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