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re: Alex Brown taking shots at the Bears (revised)

Posted on 6/22/10 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/10 at 3:02 pm to
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Tracy Porter was way out in butt frick Egypt and had to be police escorted to the stadium and still held the team picture up for over an hour.
And im guessing his roster spot isnt on the line despite some thinking guys are getting get shipped out for character reasons

Charles Grant got charged with fricking manslaughter and he didnt get the boot until they were tired of overpaying him
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 3:04 pm to
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What a bunch of retards. Guy's human and was looking forward to playing with a former teammate. I'm sure he's feeling some pain. Cut the dude some slack already.


he hasn't even played a down for the Saints yet and now he is running his mouth about an organization that is paying him.

Not a good way to start your new career
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 4:44 pm to
Maybe he isn't being negative, as some of you seem to think.

He says that he already knew that was the way that some teams work. Perhaps that's why he signed with the Saints, because the current organization is a "no bullshite" operation that will hold players accountable and is constantly re-evaluating itself and its personnel while striving to improve. They saw that McCray wasn't necessary, so they let him go NOW, when he can still shop his wares to other teams, rather than later when his options are more limited.

Maybe the culture on the Bears wasn't as driven or strong as our environment, which may be why he was happy to leave.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4077 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Tracy Porter was way out in butt frick Egypt and had to be police escorted to the stadium and still held the team picture up for over an hour.



Yeah but he wasn't pulled from the game because he was supposedly blowing assignments was he? There are big differences between being late as opposed to being late and unprepared.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 4:48 pm to
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And they wait until mini camps and OTAs are over to cut him when they couldve done it way earlier to give the guy a chance to get into camp with another team


Read the other thread that I posted this morning. Every year, teams use mini camps and OTAs to evaluate veterans at least as much as, if not more than, rookies, and make decisions at that point.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 4:51 pm to
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One afternoon, maybe a month or two ago, Kirwin suggested that after the draft but before training camp many veterans would be released. He explained that what happens is that during the OTA's and mini-camps teams are able to see (on a limited basis) what they have. Many focus on rookies, but you don't learn much there. What really stands out is his assessment of what happens with veterans. Teams see where an older vet is physically after a few months off. So what you have now that almost all minicamps and ota's are completed is a fair evaluation of what your team has/needs at each position heading into training camp.

Take any position and give a grade to each player on the roster who can play that position. This grade takes into account what the player did last year, the players age and injury history, cost vs production analysis, and how the player looks in the OTA's. Maybe a veteran hit the proverbial wall with age. Maybe the young player who should have taken a step forward took two backwards. Maybe everyone stood pat, but when compared to what teams in your division did to exploit the position match-up wise, standing pat isn't good enough.

Regardless, a GM takes that grade and looks at all options either on the open market or available for trade. And if free agent x grades out better, does his cost match what you believe he would give you on the field? If it does, would bringing him in hinder the development of a younger player. For example, if a veteran who would come at a cheap price could only give you slightly better production than an inexperienced younster, is it worthwhile, does making that move really make you better in the long run? Is it worth keeping a veteran whose production could be replaced at a cheaper price or whose production doesn't match his price? If the player would definately upgrade the position and start, does are his contract demands viable when taking your cap, his "shelf life", and future contracts you need to get done into consideration?

Kirwins biggest point was that in all these evaluations this year with its unique circumstance of being uncapped would lead to many veterans in the next month being cut-- a trend that goes against most of our logic about an uncapped year. He speculated that once these camps broke, many veterans would get walking papers. McCray is a good example of this. But this soon to be influx of veterans on the open market will provide teams with more of a chance to fill a position that wasn't adequately addressed in FA and the draft. Kind of like the June 1 cuts of past years.

Posted by Six Saint
Cypress, TX
Member since Aug 2007
925 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 4:56 pm to
Nothing shady about what they did. it is a business. Why waste money on a guy that is not earning his keep, especially when they have Mr Potential (Galette) waiting in the wings
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73841 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 5:08 pm to
[quote]shady Kinda early to be throwing these spears.
Posted by dave11
new orleans
Member since Jan 2004
648 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 5:30 pm to
Read his latest tweet. He was referring to the Bears. He went over to Halas Hall to visit, and they escorted him out. everyone relax.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22192 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 5:31 pm to
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alexbrown96 There has been so many people asking me about this I guess I will share it.... Today I went over to Halas Hall and to my surprise I escorted

alexbrown96 To my surprise I was escorted out if the building. I guess I understand it somewhat but damn didn't think I would get kicked out! Who Dat!!
Im assuming he was talking about the Bears earlier
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11547 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:22 pm to


This thread is funny. I'm sure Alex Brown was pissed that the Saints cut a player before his bonus was due, considering every team in the NFL does the same thing.
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:27 pm to
He was talking about Chicago and yall were all over the poor guy, Yall owe him an apology!!

So lets see em'

They should read; "We are sorry Mr. Alex, we misjudged you and jump to conclusions.Forgive our retardation please!!"
This post was edited on 6/22/10 at 6:28 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73841 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:29 pm to
Worst thread ever
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11547 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:30 pm to
The Jets cost Alan Faneca like 7 million a few months ago and the mouthbreathers on here were convinced Alex Brown saw McCray get cut and was all like I HAVE TO SPEAK OUT
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22192 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

He was talking about Chicago and yall were all over the poor guy, Yall owe him an apology!!

So lets see em'

They should read; "We are sorry Mr. Alex, we misjudged you and jump to conclusions.Forgive our retardation please!!"
There's a reason i titled the thread in question form.

And the only comments i made were regarding Mccray
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 7:31 pm to
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There's a reason i titled the thread in question form.

And the only comments i made were regarding Mccray
Im just messing with ya man
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22192 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 7:42 pm to
My bad
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 7:48 pm to
I put the laughy guy at the end, hello!!!
Posted by Meateye
Alvin Kamara 2017 ROY!!!
Member since Mar 2007
10248 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 8:35 pm to


His wife tweeted this

quote:

karimarbrown Classless RT @espn Chicago Bears escort New Orleans Saints defensive end Alex Brown out of Halas Hall - ESPN ..


And he tweeted

quote:

@alexbrown96 don't worry we will escort them out of the playoffs on the way to a two dat.





This post was edited on 6/22/10 at 8:46 pm
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 6/22/10 at 8:39 pm to
whole bunch of asses with tired old sports cliches came on here telling Brown to shut his mouth and now the situation is flipped.
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