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6 takeaways from the Saints' division-clinching victory vs. Bucs
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:06 am
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1. Taysom Hill's blocked punt was the catalyst
The biggest play in the game was made by a Saints quarterback. Who would have thought it would be a blocked punt by Taysom Hill that would ignite the Saints? Hill blasted through the middle of the Bucs’ punt protection and blocked Bryan Anger’s punt midway through the third quarter to spark the Saints’ comeback. It was the Saints' second blocked punt of the season and the first blocked punt of Hill’s career. And it couldn’t have come at a more important time as the Saints were struggling mightily on offense. The block energized the Saints and they never looked back after it.
2. The Brees Leap worked again
I don't know what the official success rate is for Drew Brees' leaping sneaks for touchdowns, but I honestly believe it's 100 percent. I can't recall the last time it failed to work. Brees' leaping 1-yard sneak for the go-ahead touchdown converted a gutsy fourth-down call by Sean Payton and gave the Saints the lead for good. Once again, it worked because of Brees' remarkable athletic ability. His ability to take the snap from Max Unger and beat the defense to the punch with a quick leap never ceases to amaze me. It was the fourth rushing touchdown of the season for Brees, a new career high.
3. The pass rush continued to dominate
The Saints took over the game in the second half in large part because their defensive line took over the line of scrimmage. As usual, Cam Jordan led the charge. The veteran end sacked Jameis Winston twice and induced a pair of holding calls on Bucs linemen. Jordan finished with two sacks, two quarterback hits, two tackles for loss and a pass defenses. Jordan now has 12 sacks, one shy of his career-best total from a year ago. Sheldon Rankins added a sack in the fourth quarter to increase his season total to eight, easily a career-best mark.
4. Better late than never for the rushing attack
The Saints tried to establish the run early but couldn’t get much going. They finished the first half with only 3 rushing yards in nine carries. You know it’s bad when fullback Zach Line is your leading rusher in the half and its on a 4-yard carry. This against a Tampa Bay rushing defense that had allowed an average of 160 yards on the ground to their previous three opponents. But whatever Sean Payton said to his team at halftime certainly seemed to work. The Saints rushed for 98 yards in the second half and controlled the game on the ground behind the one-two punch of Mark Ingram (13 carries, 52 yards) and Alvin Kamara (12 carries, 51 yards). Ingram's 17-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter sealed the deal and tied with him with Deuce McAllister atop the club's career touchdown rushing list with 49. He couldn't have asked for a more emphatic way to accomplish the milestone, breaking a handful of tackles and bulldozing over two defenders en route to the end zone. A fitting exclamation point to a dominant second half.
5. The Saints overcame their own mistakes
Brees committed just one turnover in the first 10 games of the season but he’s started to fall victim to the turnover bug in recent weeks. His interception before halftime led to a Tampa Bay touchdown and he lost a fumble on a strip-sack on the Saints’ first series of the second half, but the Bucs failed to capitalize when Cairo Santos missed a 40-yard field-goal attempt. The interception was Brees' third in the past three games, a discouraging trend to say the least.
6. Michael Thomas carried the receiving load -- again
It's beginning to sound like a broken record but Michael Thomas was Brees' go-to man in nearly every critical situation. Time and time again, he found the soft spot in the Buccaneers' zone defense to convert third downs and move the chains. He finished with game-high totals of 11 catches in 13 targets for 98 yards. The rest of the Saints' receiving corps combined for just three receptions for 41 yards. Even with opposing defenses concentrating their coverages on him, Thomas somehow continues to produce. He is well on his way to a second Pro Bowl season.
1. Taysom Hill's blocked punt was the catalyst
The biggest play in the game was made by a Saints quarterback. Who would have thought it would be a blocked punt by Taysom Hill that would ignite the Saints? Hill blasted through the middle of the Bucs’ punt protection and blocked Bryan Anger’s punt midway through the third quarter to spark the Saints’ comeback. It was the Saints' second blocked punt of the season and the first blocked punt of Hill’s career. And it couldn’t have come at a more important time as the Saints were struggling mightily on offense. The block energized the Saints and they never looked back after it.
2. The Brees Leap worked again
I don't know what the official success rate is for Drew Brees' leaping sneaks for touchdowns, but I honestly believe it's 100 percent. I can't recall the last time it failed to work. Brees' leaping 1-yard sneak for the go-ahead touchdown converted a gutsy fourth-down call by Sean Payton and gave the Saints the lead for good. Once again, it worked because of Brees' remarkable athletic ability. His ability to take the snap from Max Unger and beat the defense to the punch with a quick leap never ceases to amaze me. It was the fourth rushing touchdown of the season for Brees, a new career high.
3. The pass rush continued to dominate
The Saints took over the game in the second half in large part because their defensive line took over the line of scrimmage. As usual, Cam Jordan led the charge. The veteran end sacked Jameis Winston twice and induced a pair of holding calls on Bucs linemen. Jordan finished with two sacks, two quarterback hits, two tackles for loss and a pass defenses. Jordan now has 12 sacks, one shy of his career-best total from a year ago. Sheldon Rankins added a sack in the fourth quarter to increase his season total to eight, easily a career-best mark.
4. Better late than never for the rushing attack
The Saints tried to establish the run early but couldn’t get much going. They finished the first half with only 3 rushing yards in nine carries. You know it’s bad when fullback Zach Line is your leading rusher in the half and its on a 4-yard carry. This against a Tampa Bay rushing defense that had allowed an average of 160 yards on the ground to their previous three opponents. But whatever Sean Payton said to his team at halftime certainly seemed to work. The Saints rushed for 98 yards in the second half and controlled the game on the ground behind the one-two punch of Mark Ingram (13 carries, 52 yards) and Alvin Kamara (12 carries, 51 yards). Ingram's 17-yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter sealed the deal and tied with him with Deuce McAllister atop the club's career touchdown rushing list with 49. He couldn't have asked for a more emphatic way to accomplish the milestone, breaking a handful of tackles and bulldozing over two defenders en route to the end zone. A fitting exclamation point to a dominant second half.
5. The Saints overcame their own mistakes
Brees committed just one turnover in the first 10 games of the season but he’s started to fall victim to the turnover bug in recent weeks. His interception before halftime led to a Tampa Bay touchdown and he lost a fumble on a strip-sack on the Saints’ first series of the second half, but the Bucs failed to capitalize when Cairo Santos missed a 40-yard field-goal attempt. The interception was Brees' third in the past three games, a discouraging trend to say the least.
6. Michael Thomas carried the receiving load -- again
It's beginning to sound like a broken record but Michael Thomas was Brees' go-to man in nearly every critical situation. Time and time again, he found the soft spot in the Buccaneers' zone defense to convert third downs and move the chains. He finished with game-high totals of 11 catches in 13 targets for 98 yards. The rest of the Saints' receiving corps combined for just three receptions for 41 yards. Even with opposing defenses concentrating their coverages on him, Thomas somehow continues to produce. He is well on his way to a second Pro Bowl season.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:11 am to GMoney2600
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Taysom Hill's blocked punt was the catalyst
This tells you all you need to know. When the saints have trouble on offense, it’s usually between the ears..... which directly relates to:
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Better late than never for the rushing attack
The offensive line snoozed through the Cowboys game and the first half of the Bucs game. The contrast was day and night.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 am to GMoney2600
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Jordan finished with two sacks, two quarterback hits, two tackles for loss and a pass defenses. Jordan now has 12 sacks, one shy of his career-best total from a year ago.
Looks like Jordan is completely back to his old self. He started the season kind of slow (due to off-season surgery), but it looks like he's 100% healthy now or close to it.
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Sheldon Rankins added a sack in the fourth quarter to increase his season total to eight, easily a career-best mark.
Looks like we might actually have 2 guys from our D-Line that make the Pro Bowl. Huge leap for Rankins in his 3rd year. I'm just glad I don't have to read anymore of "Rankins is a bust."
His run defense is damn good as well. Even if Aaron Donald is classified as a DT...Rankins has made a damn good case for the 2nd DT on 1st Team All Pro.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:23 am to GMoney2600
Boy that's just a long list of hot takes isn't it?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:25 am to GMoney2600
I think some of the sacks were coverage sacks. Dbacks played well.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:33 am to Shiftyplus1
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Boy that's just a long list of hot takes isn't it?
It's Tuesday morning. Talking about stupid shite is what we do on Saints Talk.
It's better than losing & having this board flooded with trolls from the Rant.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:34 am to t00f
Agreed. We basically embarrassed their passing game in the 2nd half.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:36 am to GMoney2600
7. brees has lost confidence in other receivers and seldom does he look beyond his first read lately
it has been happening more and more in the last few games, as the team struggles to move the ball, brees seldom looks for any outlet other then kamara or thomas.
there are often guys wide open he just isnt looking at or throwing to while he isnt being pressured. he is just throwing to his pre snap read and not going anywhere else no mater what.
not sure why but he isnt taking whoever is open, and is instead predetermining where the ball is going
it has been happening more and more in the last few games, as the team struggles to move the ball, brees seldom looks for any outlet other then kamara or thomas.
there are often guys wide open he just isnt looking at or throwing to while he isnt being pressured. he is just throwing to his pre snap read and not going anywhere else no mater what.
not sure why but he isnt taking whoever is open, and is instead predetermining where the ball is going
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:40 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:41 am to keakar
They have to earn his trust. Brees seems to trust Ben Watson as well, but even Watson has dropped some passes.
Josh Hill, Arnold, Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, & TLL have to prove that they're more than just secondary options. I have a feeling that Tre'Quan will earn his trust in the next year or 2. I like Josh Hill, but damn...that drop against the Bucs was pathetic.
I'd actually like to see if Marshall has anything left in the tank.
Josh Hill, Arnold, Kirkwood, Tre'Quan, Carr, & TLL have to prove that they're more than just secondary options. I have a feeling that Tre'Quan will earn his trust in the next year or 2. I like Josh Hill, but damn...that drop against the Bucs was pathetic.
I'd actually like to see if Marshall has anything left in the tank.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:50 am to GMoney2600
Onyemata has quietly played very well recently
I also think Stallworth will be a solid back up DT going forward
I also think Stallworth will be a solid back up DT going forward
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:55 am to LosLobos111
We might actually have the most solid 4-man rotation at DT in the entire league. Rankins is a Pro Bowler, Onyemata is a pretty complete DT, & Davison/Stallworth are a damn solid rotation to stop the run.
I'd like to keep Davison in the off-season, but we can actually let him walk if the price isn't right...due to having Stallworth. Damn good udfa find.
I'd like to keep Davison in the off-season, but we can actually let him walk if the price isn't right...due to having Stallworth. Damn good udfa find.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:07 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:06 am to GMoney2600
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and induced a pair of holding calls on Bucs linemen.
Cam was held on nearly every pass rush.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:42 am to GMoney2600
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They have to earn his trust.
ya im sure thats a big part of it, but they are getting predictable on 3rd downs by limiting there targets to just kamara or thomas when other guys are more open.
not sure what the fix is, more reps in practice for everyone else, or if its a result of trying to not overdo brees in practice, but it is very concerning as this has to change or the playoff teems will zero in on that just like dallas and the bucks did and you see how stagnant our offense becomes when that happens if the team we play has a good run defense
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:17 pm to keakar
The same thing happened with Graham and Sproles towards the end of their time here.
When the offense isn’t clicking, Brees has a tendency to fixate on the guys he knows he can rely on to run the right routes and catch tough throws. Hopefully Ginn gives us a third trusted option, we can start using Ingram in the passing game more, and Armstead back will make the whole offense more smoothly. That will give Brees more time to go through progressions and just generally get him back in a flow
When the offense isn’t clicking, Brees has a tendency to fixate on the guys he knows he can rely on to run the right routes and catch tough throws. Hopefully Ginn gives us a third trusted option, we can start using Ingram in the passing game more, and Armstead back will make the whole offense more smoothly. That will give Brees more time to go through progressions and just generally get him back in a flow
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:27 pm to MGP
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Cam was held on nearly every pass rush.
Not sure how the refs didn't call the chokehold on him at the end of the game there when the bucs were driving late.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:43 pm to keakar
On the pass to Tommy Lee someone was all alone running down the seam at midfield. Not a buc withing 30 yards of him
Posted on 12/11/18 at 1:05 pm to keakar
Yeah your right. When Brees mistakenly threw that ball right between the numbers on Kirkwood and he dropped it I saw a real confidence booster there.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:20 pm to tigerfan88
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Hopefully Ginn gives us a third trusted option
last report i saw about ginn was he "might" be available for our first playoff game but definitely not before
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