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re: 2nd pick is Tracy Porter

Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:08 pm to
Here's another analysis of Tracy Porter.

LINK
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:08 pm to
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jumping on piles, letting his LBs hit the guy and then running and touching, etc


I'm guessing you saw this in all the times you watched Indiana play?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:09 pm to
i'm just wondering if they could have traded down and gotten him later. i don't think this was where most teams had him b/c he's a project as of now

still not as bad as the texans getting cute and then missing mendenhall AND mike jenkins
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:10 pm to
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I'm guessing you saw this in all the times you watched Indiana play?

no

i'm just giving examples of how tackle stats can be padded
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:11 pm to
from what ive read he was expected to be taken somewhere in the 2nd

and you have to have a trade partner to trade down
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:11 pm to
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if he is such a shitety tackler how did he have over 80 his final year


quote:

I'm guessing you saw this in all the times you watched Indiana play?



Perhaps he missed a lot of tackles that he should have had? I'm pretty sure I heard Kiper make a comment along the lines of "I know he had a lot of tackles but watching him play he was not good in run support"
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:11 pm to
We're 15 picks past #40 Tracy Porter right now and so far no other CB has been selected. That's a good sign.
This post was edited on 4/26/08 at 7:25 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:15 pm to
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We're 11 picks past #40 Tracy Porter right now and so far no other CB has been selected. That's a good sign.

there was a big dropoff after flowers, so this isn't shocking

also most of the teams after the saints pick either had picked a CB or have no CB need

broncos, vikes, bears, eagles, redskins, jags, and bengals are heavily invested at CB

bills and cards had already drafted a CB

the only possible team who could have gone CB, logically, is the lions
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:17 pm to
I think I played basketball against Porter in HS.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:18 pm to
are you really bitching about that pick?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:20 pm to
i'm not bitching. just saying that the teams not picking CB after the saints is irrelevant

i am intently wondering when king gets picked, however. very similar CBs and king is a better athlete
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:22 pm to
just checking, it sounded like u were


how is King a better athlete though?


according to ESPN, he has poor hips and wouldnt be good in man to man. Where as Porter is more suited to play man to man

Porter's production was certainly better in the same conference

but their numbers are pretty close. How is King a better athlete
This post was edited on 4/26/08 at 7:23 pm
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:23 pm to
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there was a big dropoff after flowers, so this isn't shocking

Slo, you might not be old enough to remember the days when the Saints would draft some total surprise and rght after another team would select the player the Saints should have selected.

I'm old enough to still have Post Draft Stress Disorder from those old days.

Historically speaking, yes, it is shocking.


ETA: The number is up to 15 now. If there was still some better CB prospect on the board than Tracy Porter don't you think someone would have reached for him?
This post was edited on 4/26/08 at 7:26 pm
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:24 pm to
Porter had the best time in the 20 yard shuttle and 2nd best in the 60 yard shuttle.
Posted by Charles Bronson
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:25 pm to
Did you watch King? He was so frustrating and was beat all the time.
Posted by True Grit
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:26 pm to
40: 4.41 v 4.31

Vert: 34.5 v 37.5

Broad: 10-1 v 10-6

Shuttle: 4.07 v 4.32

3-Cone: 7.21 v 6.89

King takes 4 of the 5 main athletic measurements
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

If there was still some better CB prospect on the board than Tracy Porter don't you think someone would have reached for him?

i see 15 picks going without a CB as a sign that the saints may have been the first team to reach for CB
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:29 pm to
I think they may have reached a bit. A lot of the mocks I saw had Porter going around 50-55.

That's not my point, though. My point is that the Saints didn't trade their #1 for DE Billy Newsome while QB Bert Jones was on the board.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/26/08 at 7:30 pm to
he ran a 4.37 at the combine
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