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re: Zion, Poole and Murray will make a combined $108.9m next season
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:02 am to Dantheman504
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:02 am to Dantheman504
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I'm so sick of trying to help people understand shite only for them to call me crazy/ off the rails for simply providing information.
I feel your pain my man.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:07 am to Dantheman504
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The amount of idiots that don't understand having Poole gives us $30mil to use and NOT having Poole/ CJ gives us NOTHING to use is astonishing. Y'all really don't even know wtf you are saying.
Pelicans having Poole for $30mil and being able to take back $30mil is a good thing.
its people not understanding how the modern nba system works
If you let CJ go, you gain nothing.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:50 am to Fun Bunch
I wouldn't say you gain nothing.
Let's say just for shits and giggles, b/c this won't happen, but let's say we traded Zion and Poole in February and got back mostly expiring contracts.
That's $76M gone, plus another $8M from Looney who isn't returning next year, so $84M off the books for next year.
We'd be at $110M in salaries with 11 players. Expected cap is $166M. Let's just assume we have another $30M in salaries on guys we took back in trades, leaving us with $26M in cap space.
Even if it was less than that, say $15M in cap space, what you can do with that is bail out a team that's deep in the tax, like the Bucks or Cavs or Wolves.
A trade of $7M Hawkins for $23M Naz Reid is now legal, and it gets them comfortably out of the tax and allows them to use some of the MLE. They can't afford to be a tax team for the 3rd consecutive year, next year.
The Celtics traded $30M Porzingis and a second for $8M Niang and $15M Mann, saving them $7M. The Jazz then absorbed Niangs contract from the Celtics for 2 2nd round picks. The Nets absorbed Mann's contract for the #25 pick in the 2025 draft.
Celtics spent 3 2nds and a 1st to get rid of $30M.
So it can be beneficial, especially when rebuilding, to have some cap space to make uneven trades or absorb salaries from tax teams needing to shed salaries.
Let's say just for shits and giggles, b/c this won't happen, but let's say we traded Zion and Poole in February and got back mostly expiring contracts.
That's $76M gone, plus another $8M from Looney who isn't returning next year, so $84M off the books for next year.
We'd be at $110M in salaries with 11 players. Expected cap is $166M. Let's just assume we have another $30M in salaries on guys we took back in trades, leaving us with $26M in cap space.
Even if it was less than that, say $15M in cap space, what you can do with that is bail out a team that's deep in the tax, like the Bucks or Cavs or Wolves.
A trade of $7M Hawkins for $23M Naz Reid is now legal, and it gets them comfortably out of the tax and allows them to use some of the MLE. They can't afford to be a tax team for the 3rd consecutive year, next year.
The Celtics traded $30M Porzingis and a second for $8M Niang and $15M Mann, saving them $7M. The Jazz then absorbed Niangs contract from the Celtics for 2 2nd round picks. The Nets absorbed Mann's contract for the #25 pick in the 2025 draft.
Celtics spent 3 2nds and a 1st to get rid of $30M.
So it can be beneficial, especially when rebuilding, to have some cap space to make uneven trades or absorb salaries from tax teams needing to shed salaries.
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:26 am to TeddyPadillac
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So it can be beneficial, especially when rebuilding, to have some cap space to make uneven trades or absorb salaries from tax teams needing to shed salaries.
This. The issue (recurring theme) is our FO whoever is running it, thinks we're closer than we really are.
The moves at the deadline and in the off season will tell you what Dumars thinks moving forward. The Poole contract is short enough it doesn't hurt anything, we can play the asset acquisition game next season if we need to as well - hopefully rehabbing Murray's value and poole's to get something back.
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