re: Z, Herb, Nance all questionable tomorrow

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Basically comparing a defensive specialist role player health wise to one of the greatest to ever play almost 30 years ago when the speed of the game and athletes were completely different.

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I don’t agree with the poster about Herb, but exactly how is the skill level and role a player has at all relevant to playing through bumps and bruises.

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So now we’re comparing Herb Jones to Michael Jordan in terms of him playing through injuries? Basically comparing a defensive specialist role player health wise to one of the greatest to ever play almost 30 years ago when the speed of the game and athletes were completely different. Now ask yourself is that a fair comparison?

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Who do you think took more of a beating game to game?

I know I’m old school, but guys like Jordan and Stockton never sat out games with a bruise. And no, this is not limited to Herb these days.

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Basically comparing a defensive specialist role player health wise to one of the greatest to ever play almost 30 years ago when the speed of the game and athletes were completely different.

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What does how talented you are and what your role is have to do with your pain threshold and willingness to play through bumps and bruises??

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What does how talented you are and what your role is have to do with your pain threshold and willingness to play through bumps and bruises??

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Because you can sit a player like Herb Jones and its still conceivable to win a game. Their roles matter. Its not always about pain threshold, even if a player says they can play- training staff may over rule them.

So just going by what you and another poster are saying its ok to compare any player today regardless of who they are or their role in regards to playing through injuries to jordan, one of the best ever, because he played through different injuries in a completely different pace of game 20 plus years ago? So the pace of game, a player’s role on the team, modernization of how players should recover, every teams specific training staff- all this is inconsequential and doesn’t matter?

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So now Herb is being held out because of the training staff? You know this?

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I need your sources showing me how the training staff has no involvement if the player is sitting or playing.

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And to act like it’s harder for today’s players to get out there is ridiculous. Pace of play may be faster, but the game is infinitely less physical than it was twenty years when defensive players could put their hands on you. And today’s players have every conceivable medical advantage from better nutrition, better physical therapy, better travel, etc. And again whether you are the star of your team or a role player it has nothing to do with whether you want to be out there playing for your team. .

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I can argue with you back and forth. But you already seem inclined to think that comparing Jordan’s ability to play in a 82 game season in the 90s is an adequate comparison of Herb Jones being able to do the same in 2024- regardless of roles- I respectfully disagree. It makes no sense to even try to argue with you on this if you think thats an acceptable comparison.

I will just point out I think its interesting you talk about today’s players having every conceivable medical advantage- one of those may actually be in training and recovery- where a player may be advised not to play in a game because its better for them long term.