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re: When the Clippers come to town
Posted on 3/14/12 at 9:49 am to BigTimeDave
Posted on 3/14/12 at 9:49 am to BigTimeDave
My plan for Chris goes a little like this: During the montage video ( 
) I won't cheer or boo, I'll just pay my respects.
Once the game starts though, he becomes a member of the other team and I'll be boo'ing my arse off.
) I won't cheer or boo, I'll just pay my respects. Once the game starts though, he becomes a member of the other team and I'll be boo'ing my arse off.
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:00 am to Cap Crunch
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I know that him leaving was purely a business decision
How so? The Hornets could offer him as much money as any other team. You could argue that his endorsements will go up, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of Chris Paul commercials. Maybe he can get rich on local endorsement deals.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:05 am to Jester
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Meanwhile, his handlers are making it known that he wants out. When the Hornets do start seeking to trade him, he and his group devalue him on the trade market by insisting on which teams he would play for. When he saw he couldn't force his way to NY, he started devaluing other trades by saying he won't resign (even with the Clippers deal). This, again, assured minimal value for the Hornets.
I don't see it as him devaluing his trade value by giving us a wish list. Those teams looking to get him were looking for a long term commitment. If he didn't want to commit long term to a certain team that's his choice. Obviously this break up could've gone smoother but when does trading your franchise player not go smoothly. CP tried to keep it out of the media and do it all behind closed doors (which is the respectable way to do it IMO) but the word got out. I just think all the hate is a little ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:12 am to Hazelnut
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I don't see it as him devaluing his trade value by giving us a wish list.
That's not the problem. They didn't give the Hornets a wish list. They gave the media and the entire league a wish list. When he tried to make his whine about not joining the Lakers, he didn't push the lawsuit issue for several reasons, one being that he was probably in violation of the terms of the CBA in that he was trying to collude. Again, that is why he had his Lebrongency do it, because it put him at arms length and offered deniability.
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CP tried to keep it out of the media and do it all behind closed doors (which is the respectable way to do it IMO) but the word got out
That is where you and I disagree. His PR agency did a good job of making it seem like he was trying to keep it behind closed doors, hence them doing it for him. He was trying to play both sides of the coin and his hissy fit when he couldn't force his way to the Lakers revealed his true intentions.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:31 am to Jester
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How so? The Hornets could offer him as much money as any other team. You could argue that his endorsements will go up, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of Chris Paul commercials. Maybe he can get rich on local endorsement deals.
It wasn't a money issue. He wanted to compete for championships. And with the state the Hornets were in at the time (and still are) he didn't see the Hornets as capable of putting the player around him to be able to compete for a championship. And he was right.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:34 am to BigTimeDave
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When the Clippers come to town
I plan on starting a massive standing ovation for Mr. Christopher Paul.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:37 am to Jester
Yea I guess this is where we disagree. I know he was having his people do all his dirty work while he acted like nothing was wrong. But I see that as trying to keep from being a distraction.
Theres a bunch of different ways to look at this whole thing because there's so many different speculations about it. We will probably never know what his motives really were so it's useless arguing about it
Theres a bunch of different ways to look at this whole thing because there's so many different speculations about it. We will probably never know what his motives really were so it's useless arguing about it
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:46 am to Cap Crunch
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It wasn't a money issue. He wanted to compete for championships.
Then it is not a business decision.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:47 am to Hazelnut
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But I see that as trying to keep from being a distraction.
You are being naive, in my opinion. He didn't care about being a distraction. He cared about keeping his good guy persona intact while he was being an a-hole.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:12 am to BigTimeDave
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I plan on starting a massive standing ovation for Mr. Christopher Paul
if you point his ride out to me I'll plan on taking a massive dump on his dashboard
just point the way
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:26 am to Jester
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Then it is not a business decision.
How so? He wanted to succeed at the highest level and didn't think he could do that here.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:46 am to Cap Crunch
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He wanted to succeed at the highest level and didn't think he could do that here
The Clip Show is about where we were when we had both West & CP3 and both were healthy. Also I think we were playing in a tougher west then than where the west is now. Several free agents have headed east (Deron Williams, Amare, etc.). I don't think the Lakers or Spurs are as good now as they were then (though still playing at a high level now). The only franchise that has stepped up its game since '07-'10 is OKC. I doubt CP3 does more with the Clippers than he ever did here.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:48 am to ThePurpleHornet
I think it is acceptable to boo CP3. The franchise wanted to retain him and were willing to make a much more lucrative offer to him than Dwest. Dwest would've gotten the scraps. The franchise basicaly told West & Landry that Landry was the future.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:57 am to meldawg399
A healthy Clippers team with CP3 is better than a healthy Hornets team with CP3. Plus it was very unclear what direction the Hornets were going because we didn't have an owner and he didn't know how a league owned team without cap room in a small market could bring in players to make us a contender.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:32 pm to Cap Crunch
CP3= the greatest Hornet to ever dribble a basketball.
It is becoming obvious that everyone saying they will boo him is from Baton Rouge and won't even be at the game. I still might have to make a trip over to 119 (or wherever it is that the Beezanies sit) and tell those hipsters to shut it
It is becoming obvious that everyone saying they will boo him is from Baton Rouge and won't even be at the game. I still might have to make a trip over to 119 (or wherever it is that the Beezanies sit) and tell those hipsters to shut it
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:43 pm to BigTimeDave
That makes no sense. I'm from Baton Rouge and don't want to boo him. And tons of people there from NO will boo him.
This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:45 pm to BigTimeDave
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It is becoming obvious that everyone saying they will boo him is from Baton Rouge and won't even be at the game
I've already stated my opinion on that matter, but I just wanted to point out that this is a tired/stupid/untrue point that I've seen try to be made multiple times now.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:47 pm to ThePurpleHornet
The BR/NO argument may be futile but there certainly will be a divide of continental proportions of people for CP3 and those against him. It's going to be an interesting night at the Hive. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of fights break out.
Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:49 pm to BigTimeDave
All I know is I'm going to be embarassed by our fans when you can hear people booing him in the arena.
See what I said there? I live in BR, and I'll be at the game. WHAT!? So, people from BR DO go to games? Wow .....
See what I said there? I live in BR, and I'll be at the game. WHAT!? So, people from BR DO go to games? Wow .....
Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:10 pm to BigTimeDave
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It is becoming obvious that everyone saying they will boo him is from Baton Rouge and won't even be at the game. I still might have to make a trip over to 119 (or wherever it is that the Beezanies sit) and tell those hipsters to shut it
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