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re: Watching college prospects thread
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:41 am to lsu31always
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:41 am to lsu31always
whether you are 23 or 18, if you can make 45%-50% from 3 all season, you can be successful
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:04 am to TigerinATL
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but I don't see Luwawu being even close to Batum until year 3-4.
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And that's a problem because?
Exactly. Who in this draft is going to be one of the better SF's in the league year 1 or 2? That doesn't happen. At some point we have to develop talent. Luwawu could be the long term answer for us at SF. He has NBA ready skills now and will develop. If he is at Batum's level in year 3, we are in great shape.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:46 am to GynoSandberg
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He can paraphrase draft websites with the best of em
I laughed, I read a shite ton of draft site and YouTube videos. I haven't had a reason to look at the draft in years.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:56 am to htran90
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He's always been consistent from within the arc (career 51.6%), but has improved his 3pt shooting over the years. He does improve his finishing rate at the rim ~55% last year, low 60%s this year. He is not an above average defender, so he won't be a shutdown guy partially due to his size.
We need a SF pretty bad and chances are we'll need a SG as well since EG is too injury prone to be dependable. I don't see either being a bad pick, but I don't see Luwawu being even close to Batum until year 3-4.
Kawhi is 24 years old and he took realistically 2.5 years before he even become close to a pseudo-allstar version of himself. Took him until this year (5 years) to turn into a top 5 SF in the league.
Butler is 26 years old and he took realistically 4 years before he even become this "Jimmy Butler".
His handles are shaky but can be improved plus the sf position doesn't handle the ball a ton he would need to work on creating his own shot. So you wouldn't want a guy who could be good as Kawhi or Butler because it might take time?
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:18 pm to 504ByrdGang
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So you wouldn't want a guy who could be good as Kawhi or Butler because it might take time?
Could =/= will. Hield could be as good as Klay Thompson.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:32 pm to Jester
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Could =/= will. Hield could be as good as Klay Thompson.
I rather Kawhi>>Klay I just don't like Heild size a the sg. Most of the top sg's today have great size and strength Klay, Harden, Middleton, Korver, Butler, Hood, Burks, and Wiggins are all at least 6'6 the only exception is CJ who has great ball handling and quickness.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 12:58 pm to 504ByrdGang
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I rather Kawhi>>Klay
Kawhi is an extremely high ceiling being set for Luwawu and nothing close to a realistic expectation for him. A realistic ceiling is probably more along the lines of Trevor Ariza.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 1:05 pm to Jester
I think his most likely comparison is Batum due to his passing and playmaking. He's already a better shooter than current Ariza. I think his ceiling is Khawhi offensively a 19-22 ppg scorer who use his size and length to score and Batum defensively with Thabo Sefolosha as his floor.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:05 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Thabo Sefolosha as his floor.
You're basically turning this dude into a can't miss prospect with multiple MVPs in his future.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:26 pm to Jester
A 3&D guy who's not that good at hitting 3s is a MVP caliber? Its basically what he's doing now his defense is already rated NBA ready.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:43 pm to 504ByrdGang
You're pumping luwawu as if he has the upside of a top 5 player with a floor of a top 10 sf, you realize that right?
If he has that much potential that we know of already, he'd be a top 3 pick.
If he has that much potential that we know of already, he'd be a top 3 pick.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:48 pm to htran90
I think because he's an international player people are lower on him.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:37 pm to 504ByrdGang
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I think his most likely comparison is Batum due to his passing and playmaking. He's already a better shooter than current Ariza. I think his ceiling is Khawhi offensively a 19-22 ppg scorer who use his size and length to score and Batum defensively with Thabo Sefolosha as his floor.
This is all over the place. I won't pretend to know anything about Luwawu, but:
1. Ariza has shot 41, 35 and 37% from 3 the last 3 years. He led the lead in corner 3s his last year in Washington. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with us but is a good shooter now.
2. It's awfully ambitious to give someone an offensive ceiling of Kawhi when you've at best watched maybe one YouTube video of them.
3. Thabo Sefolosha was one of the best wing defenders in the league for several years. Calling him the floor for someone means he's going to be one of the best defenders in the league for his career. Thabo's prime as a defender is also much better than Batum.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:05 pm to 504ByrdGang
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I think because he's an international player people are lower on him.
the only fallacy to that is a ton of international players are getting love. They may not be top 3, but just going back a couple of years I know each draft has had an international guy or two go top 5 in each draft.
3 went top 7 last year.
1 went top 5 two years ago.
Most people project Luwawu around the teens and there are a lot of international players each year that go around there as well. If he was considered a top prospect with a "top 5 player" ceiling and a "top 10 SF" floor like you keep saying he does, he'd be a top 5 pick regardless of where he plays
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:47 pm to htran90
And Valentine is projected to go even lower than Luwawu but everyone here is crazy over him
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:11 pm to Toula
Melo Trimble would be a huge mistake of a draft pick
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:48 pm to 504ByrdGang
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And Valentine is projected to go even lower than Luwawu but everyone here is crazy over him
Now you're just making shite up.
Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:26 pm to LosLobos111
CAN WE GET A DAMN 3PT SPECIALIST
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:01 am to Jester
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