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Trade Up Draft Targets: Onyeka Okongwu
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:44 am
I feel like its more likely that we will pick at 13 (or move that pick) than move up, but there are some popular trade ideas that have us moving into the top 8. In that vein, maybe we can talk about some players in that range.
The first is one of the most popular among fans and bloggers, particularly people like McNamara who talks about him a lot:
Onyeka Okongwu
He's one of my favorites in this draft as well. A 19 year old PF/C, he's 6'9" with a great wingspan. He is an exceptional athlete and does one thing we desperately need: He is an elite Rim Protector for a college player. He plays very physically, is an elite defender all around. He finishes really really well, and he gets to the FT line a lot and shoots pretty well there. Has one of the highest upsides in the entire draft. He needs to get more polished offensively, and he does not have an effective outside shot.
But his upside is crazy high and he already has an elite skillset coming out: defense/rim protection.
I could see him working well with Zion honestly despite the lack of an outside shot. His defense and length covers up some of Zion's liabilities.
People have him in general going in the 5-8 range...
But I think he could easily go in the top 4 and be a player that surprises to go VERY high. People are going to fall in love with him in workouts, and he actually produced.
The first is one of the most popular among fans and bloggers, particularly people like McNamara who talks about him a lot:
Onyeka Okongwu
He's one of my favorites in this draft as well. A 19 year old PF/C, he's 6'9" with a great wingspan. He is an exceptional athlete and does one thing we desperately need: He is an elite Rim Protector for a college player. He plays very physically, is an elite defender all around. He finishes really really well, and he gets to the FT line a lot and shoots pretty well there. Has one of the highest upsides in the entire draft. He needs to get more polished offensively, and he does not have an effective outside shot.
But his upside is crazy high and he already has an elite skillset coming out: defense/rim protection.
I could see him working well with Zion honestly despite the lack of an outside shot. His defense and length covers up some of Zion's liabilities.
People have him in general going in the 5-8 range...
But I think he could easily go in the top 4 and be a player that surprises to go VERY high. People are going to fall in love with him in workouts, and he actually produced.
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:02 am to Fun Bunch
I would be ecstatic if we somehow got Onyeka. I really don’t see a scenario where he fails in the league
He’s been on the radar since he was a freshman at Chino Hills playing with the ball brothers, and some of those games he was the best player on the court
He’s been on the radar since he was a freshman at Chino Hills playing with the ball brothers, and some of those games he was the best player on the court
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:04 am to LilWezyAna
Yeah to me he has a really high floor and a really high ceiling. Maybe he doesn't become Bam Adebayo, but he will definitely be at the very least an adequate player. I think he will be better than that though.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
What are these popular trade ideas that have us moving into the top 8?
I am not a big fan of trading away assets to move up in the draft, unless we are talking about trading away Jrue/Lonzo/JJ to move up.
I am not a big fan of trading away assets to move up in the draft, unless we are talking about trading away Jrue/Lonzo/JJ to move up.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:20 am to TeddyPadillac
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What are these popular trade ideas that have us moving into the top 8?
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unless we are talking about trading away Jrue/Lonzo/JJ to move up.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:42 am to Fun Bunch
So what are those trades? other than Jrue going to GSW, what other trade would net us a top 8 pick?
do you honestly think the Knicks would give us #8 for Lonzo? That seems farfetched.
do you honestly think the Knicks would give us #8 for Lonzo? That seems farfetched.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:45 am to TeddyPadillac
You're acting like there is something concrete. I was simply referring to popular fan trades, like with GSW or the Knicks.
So, relax. Focus on the prospect rather than that bit of minutae. We have multiple threads on trades and such.
So, relax. Focus on the prospect rather than that bit of minutae. We have multiple threads on trades and such.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:56 am to Fun Bunch
you a bit fiesty today aren't you Bunchie?
So you'd take Okongwu at #2?
I'm antsy. I can't wait to get this offseason started and see what we do. There's so many potential scenarios of trades and draft picks. Hopefully it's an offseason that starts off with Lebron/AD crying tears of sadness, not joy.
So you'd take Okongwu at #2?
I'm antsy. I can't wait to get this offseason started and see what we do. There's so many potential scenarios of trades and draft picks. Hopefully it's an offseason that starts off with Lebron/AD crying tears of sadness, not joy.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:00 am to TeddyPadillac
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So you'd take Okongwu at #2?
Not saying I would or wouldn't, just mentioning him as a potential target if we move up somewhere.
I think there is a chance he goes higher than people anticipate.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:16 am to Fun Bunch
So the biggest issue that comes into play with any non-spacing big for the Pels is a questionable fit with Zion.
I think the Bam comparisons are going to give him some boost (though he likely won't be the passer/playmaker that Bam is) and I really like Okongwu, but playing two non-shooting bigs just makes life difficult with roster construction. The numbers show that we did well this year with Favors sharing the floor with Zion, but it seems like the biggest contribution to that was the massive boost Favors provided in rebounding.
I think the Bam comparisons are going to give him some boost (though he likely won't be the passer/playmaker that Bam is) and I really like Okongwu, but playing two non-shooting bigs just makes life difficult with roster construction. The numbers show that we did well this year with Favors sharing the floor with Zion, but it seems like the biggest contribution to that was the massive boost Favors provided in rebounding.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:19 am to NOFOX
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So the biggest issue that comes into play with any non-spacing big for the Pels is a questionable fit with Zion.
I think the Bam comparisons are going to give him some boost and I really like Okongwu, but playing two non-shooting bigs just makes life difficult with roster construction. The numbers show that we did well this year with Favors sharing the floor with Zion, but it seems like the biggest contribution to that was the massive boost Favors provided in rebounding.
Onyeka is an excellent rebounder as well.
It is a concern. You have to add another starting Guard with 3 pt Gravity to say the least. If you've got 3 other guys with gravity it works (BI is one), if you don't, it won't.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:26 am to Fun Bunch
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It is a concern. You have to add another starting Guard with 3 pt Gravity to say the least. If you've got 3 other guys with gravity it works (BI is one), if you don't, it won't.
That is the biggest concern. You need to play at least one shooter with real gravity (JJ-like) and then two other players who shoot ~40% on decent volume C&S, but at least one has to be able to get to the rim and run an offense [those are few and far between].
It would help tremendously and make life easier if Zion and/or Okongwu developed into a high level passer or initiator for a big. But two non-shooting, non-initiating, non-passing bigs means you need to find two very versatile G/F's in addition to BI to maximize Zion.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:30 am to NOFOX
The biggest mistake would be thinking about a draft prospect's fit today instead of what it could be in the future.
If you think he's the best player, then you have to think about your future fit plans.
If you think he's the best player, then you have to think about your future fit plans.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:02 pm to Fun Bunch
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The biggest mistake would be thinking about a draft prospect's fit today instead of what it could be in the future.
Zion(20) and BI(23) are the future of basketball in New Orleans. Draft for value, but all moves must be viewed in a light of roster construction with BI and Zion. You don't trade up for someone that you don't think is an easy long term fit with those 2. Maybe they think Okongwu can develop an outside shot or become a high level passer, but if you don't have a plan with how the player can compliment/develop alongside Zion and BI, then you dont have a plan.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:48 pm to NOFOX
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So the biggest issue that comes into play with any non-spacing big for the Pels is a questionable fit with Zion.
Thats my concern as well. It's really hard to build a modern NBA offense around multiple players that can't shoot, let alone bigs.
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I think the Bam comparisons are going to give him some boost (though he likely won't be the passer/playmaker that Bam is) and I really like Okongwu, but playing two non-shooting bigs just makes life difficult with roster construction. The numbers show that we did well this year with Favors sharing the floor with Zion, but it seems like the biggest contribution to that was the massive boost Favors provided in rebounding.
And I think it also just says how pitiful we were with anyone else on the floor when it came to those stats.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:17 pm to NOFOX
I put the priority on finding wing players. If we get up high, I want Devi. If he's gone, then they should go best available/fit out of Okoro, Vassell, Williams, Neismeth or Bey..
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