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re: Top draft choices for our positioning
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:18 am to Crewz
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:18 am to Crewz
I think we disagree on philosophies. I’m ok with drafting a guy like Hunter at 7 even though I know he’s going to be a Demarre Carroll type player IF that’s our second draft pick. My ideal scenario would be to somehow land a top two pick for AD and get either Morant or Zion as my future all star pick. With the second pick, I would take a conservative approach and get a Hunter or Washington. I know they are probably not going to be all stars but we have been in need of talent off the bench for years and they would provide that. We need talent on this roster and I would rather not gamble on it when we are already in the red.
If we don’t get a top 2 pick than my pick will be Garland all the way. He fits a need in a PG and 3 point shooting. My list is Zion, Morant, Garland, Hunter. I don’t think Barrett or Culver will be available to us in any scenario as of right now.
If we don’t get a top 2 pick than my pick will be Garland all the way. He fits a need in a PG and 3 point shooting. My list is Zion, Morant, Garland, Hunter. I don’t think Barrett or Culver will be available to us in any scenario as of right now.
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:22 am to Mad Scientist26
I don't think we disagree then. If we have 2 and 7, then yes I would take Morant and a role player like Clarke or Hunter. But I am assuming 7 will be the highest pick we own.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 10:41 am to Crewz
Jontay Porter would be a top 10 pick in most drafts and I know about the recent re-tear that happened. Still, you want to talk about prospects with high ceilings 6’11 shooting 43% from 3. He’s the best passing big by a mile in this draft. If your philosophy is drafting on potential then we should use that 2nd Celtics pick at 20 to grab him.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:55 pm to Crewz
I think Culver might be there as well.
Hunter would probably be the safest pick.
Definitely kick the tires on Garland for sure, just wish he wouldn't have gotten injured for more evaluation. He could be the steal of the draft.
Hunter would probably be the safest pick.
Definitely kick the tires on Garland for sure, just wish he wouldn't have gotten injured for more evaluation. He could be the steal of the draft.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:43 pm to Atomicc
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This is based on Zion, Morant, Culver, Barrett, Cam reddish, and the forward from Gonzaga all being gone
Too sad. I affirm pels pick #2.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 2:49 pm to Crewz
assuming Memphis ends up 9th and that’s part of the trade. And we are 7th. How far could combining 7 and 9 bring us up? 4th?
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:01 pm to CocoLoco
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Us landing at 3 or 4 and Morant being there is lucky
Would require witchcraft.
Morant is Jerry west's #1 in this draft. Called him a miracle.
Morant is no worse than #2 overall.
Williamson could be all time.
Morant just won Bob cousy award.
That's quite apt. Cousy was the pg for Celtics when I started watching NBA.
Check out YouTube.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:05 pm to CelticDog
But what does Atlanta do if they are #2? Cleveland? They both have PGs they are invested in already. Maybe both value Barrett ahead of him.
I’m just curious what the value of 7 and 9!equates to and how far it would allow us to move up. It’s definitly not enough for 1 or 2. But is it enough to move up to 3.
I’m just curious what the value of 7 and 9!equates to and how far it would allow us to move up. It’s definitly not enough for 1 or 2. But is it enough to move up to 3.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 3:28 pm to CocoLoco
quote:If Memphis stays at 8, they keep it, so it cannot be part of Celtics trade.
assuming Memphis stays at 8 and that’s part of the trade. And we are 7th. How far could combining 7 and 8 bring us up? 4th?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:09 pm to NOSHAU
I knew that. My fault. If it’s 9******
7th pick + 9th.
I think that could get us to 4. Could it get us to 3.
7th pick + 9th.
I think that could get us to 4. Could it get us to 3.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:36 pm to Atomicc
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Don’t sleep on Hunter. His improvement from his freshmen year to his sophomore year is night and day. He’s already a great 3 point shooter and an elite defender. As the season went he started doing post fade aways, almost Kawhi Leonard esque. He needs to work on his ball handling and driving. If he develops that, I think his ceiling is perineal all star if he continues developing like he has.
I'd absolutely take Hunter if I could at 6 or 7. This isn't the greatest draft. Get a legit 3 and D guy and move AD for a chance at Zion or Morant or for Tatum/Smart + a ton of picks. Teams get caught too much trying to get upside in the mid to late lottery and they pass up awesome role players. His age means he's more ready to contribute now and he'll be partially in his prime during his rookie deal. That's incredible.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:39 pm to GeauxTigers2020
We really are in a better spot than a lot of people think. There are so many possibilities when you look at the combination of the lottery plus AD as an asset. I do believe Griffin will get this team right as well, hiring great people around him.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:41 pm to GeauxTigers2020
I will write a piece on this, so I won't spoil the whole thing here, but let me leave you with this question to research yourself:
How many guys can you find in the entire NBA that are currently role players/fringe starters for their team that fit this criteria:
- Were a top 10 pick
- Are with the same team that drafted them
- Are on the 2nd (or later) contract
Research that, and then see if you can guess what my conclusion is.
How many guys can you find in the entire NBA that are currently role players/fringe starters for their team that fit this criteria:
- Were a top 10 pick
- Are with the same team that drafted them
- Are on the 2nd (or later) contract
Research that, and then see if you can guess what my conclusion is.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:50 pm to Crewz
I can guess what your conclusion is, but my response would be the part of my post where I said teams too frequently take raw prospects like Marquese Chris's instead of safer options.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 5:51 pm to GeauxTigers2020
Yeah, tell him!
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:03 pm to CocoLoco
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7th pick + 9th.
I think that could get us to 4. Could it get us to 3?
It would be a bad trade.
If I had the 3 or 4 I'd be happy to take 7 and 9.
Your odds on health double.
Your chances of an all star increase. One pretty good Barrett is not worth Clarke plus white, for example. They'll be around at 7 8 9.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:38 pm to CelticDog
It's not that simple. Based on NBA Draft history, there is a 34.4% chance of getting an 'A' player if you had two swings with picks in the 6-10 range. Thats same history says that you would have a 37% chance with one swing at a pick between 2-5.
However, you would have just a 20% chance to get a 'B' level player (solid to good starter, think David West) with one pick between 2-5. With two picks in the 6-10 range, you would have another 34% chance of getting at least one B level player. And yes, it is possible you could get one A and one B. Or two A's or two B's
So, it depends what you want to maximize your chances at. If your sole objective is to give yourself a chance at a true A player, you would prefer 3 to 7 and 9. But if you want to increase your chances of walking out of the draft with at least one B level player, then you would make the trade.
However, you would have just a 20% chance to get a 'B' level player (solid to good starter, think David West) with one pick between 2-5. With two picks in the 6-10 range, you would have another 34% chance of getting at least one B level player. And yes, it is possible you could get one A and one B. Or two A's or two B's
So, it depends what you want to maximize your chances at. If your sole objective is to give yourself a chance at a true A player, you would prefer 3 to 7 and 9. But if you want to increase your chances of walking out of the draft with at least one B level player, then you would make the trade.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:01 pm to Crewz
If you don’t have an A player, then you should always be swinging for the fences for that A player. If you already do then it’s a bit of a harder question.
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:51 am to Crewz
If I could get #3 for 7 and 9 I do it.
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