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Thread for the implications of Jax's long range jumper at the end of the game
Posted on 1/16/21 at 5:10 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 5:10 am
He's got stretch potential bois
That little floater he hit too was nice
I'm starting to become a Peliever
He's going to take a long time to ferment, but we're finally starting to see fragments of an impactful player
And obviously has those top 1% physical gifts which never hurts
That little floater he hit too was nice
I'm starting to become a Peliever
He's going to take a long time to ferment, but we're finally starting to see fragments of an impactful player
And obviously has those top 1% physical gifts which never hurts
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 5:19 am
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 6:07 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
If you didn't bar up when Jax hit that almost corner three, you're not a real Pels fan
Posted on 1/16/21 at 6:58 am to Pelefraan 1
Just like we got excited about Zion smashing threes in his first game. Not gonna get me excited over one shot
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:44 am to Pelefraan 1
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Thread for the implications of Jax's long range jumper at the end of the game
Now we just need our idiot coach to play him.
Kid has improved drastically over the last few games. Looked good in the 1st half last night, then we don't see him at all in the 2nd half until 3 minutes left when it was over. What The frick Stan!
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:14 am to gotiger
He's shot 3s last season as well. The potential is there. They're going to have to let him shoot those shot regularly at some point. The focus on defense and hustle this season is always going to overshadow what he is able to do on offense this year.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:10 am to Pelefraan 1
His jump shot still needs to be fixed.
Either that or he fell back into a bad habit since it did look like in some offseason footage he had adjusted his form so that his gather and sideways release over his eye was fixed, but he was doing it again on that jumper.
Can’t be a reliable jump shooter releasing at a 45 degree angle to the basket and covering your eye. Hopefully Vinson can work with him this offseason
Either that or he fell back into a bad habit since it did look like in some offseason footage he had adjusted his form so that his gather and sideways release over his eye was fixed, but he was doing it again on that jumper.
Can’t be a reliable jump shooter releasing at a 45 degree angle to the basket and covering your eye. Hopefully Vinson can work with him this offseason
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:17 am to Bronc
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Hopefully Vinson can work with him this offseason
Yet another reason to trade Lonzo sooner than later, to free up Vinson's time for players that will be here long term.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:43 am to TigerinATL
My ideal is to get Hart back on the cheap and let he, Zion, and Hayes share the majority of time with Vinson next offseason.
Ingram seems to be good, Lonzo is a lost cause. Vinson should be able to refocus on some new guys.
Those three becoming reliable jump shooters would elevate this team in such a huge way.
Ingram seems to be good, Lonzo is a lost cause. Vinson should be able to refocus on some new guys.
Those three becoming reliable jump shooters would elevate this team in such a huge way.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 6:47 pm to Pelefraan 1
quote:The only thing good about it was that it went in. It looked ugly.
Thread for the implications of Jax's long range jumper at the end of the game
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:40 am to shel311
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The only thing good about it was that it went in. It looked ugly.
Pretty sure his form is fine for a 7 footer. Or anyone for that matter
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 7:41 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:00 am to Pelefraan 1
It’s the wind up and angle that is the problem. It’s not properly aligned with the basket, covers his eyes as he goes into his shooting motion, and that just creates too much variability and inconsistency.
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(I mean there is a reason he is shooting 29% on his overall jump shots since coming into the league)
I expect some time with Vinson can help that(and like I said the other day, if you look at some training camp footage it looked like his shot was altered a bit, so this might just be a regression moment like happens).
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(I mean there is a reason he is shooting 29% on his overall jump shots since coming into the league)
I expect some time with Vinson can help that(and like I said the other day, if you look at some training camp footage it looked like his shot was altered a bit, so this might just be a regression moment like happens).
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:09 am to Bronc
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It’s the wind up and angle that is the problem. It’s not properly aligned with the basket, covers his eyes as he goes into his shooting motion, and that just creates too much variability and inconsistency.
LINK
(I mean there is a reason he is shooting 29% on his overall jump shots since coming into the league)
I expect some time with Vinson can help that(and like I said the other day, if you look at some training camp footage it looked like his shot was altered a bit, so this might just be a regression moment like happens).
Cheers for the very unspecific link
Jax's shooting form is great. You just have to watch him shoot free throws to see this.
Could use a little tweaking here and there. But the way you're carrying on is like his shot is as broken as Lonzo's
Nice vertical arm very much aligned with the bucket;
(see the gif above for evidence)
and a lovely follow through.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:08 am to Bronc
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Can’t be a reliable jump shooter releasing at a 45 degree angle to the basket
I could be misunderstanding you but 45 degrees is scientifically the ideal angle to shoot a basketball. Gives you the best possible chances of making a shot
Posted on 1/18/21 at 8:59 am to supe12sta12z
quote:He's only shot 4 in his career. I think he has potential based on his form and FT form, but it would take some work. I do think that his something they should work on with him.
He's shot 3s last season as well. The potential is there. They're going to have to let him shoot those shot regularly at some point. The focus on defense and hustle this season is always going to overshadow what he is able to do on offense this year.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:02 am to NOSHAU
You could tell from day 1 that he should be able to develop a nice mid range game as well as taking it out to the 3 point line.
Why we haven't seen more of that, i'll chalk that up to our coaches b/c i can't think of any other legit reason.
Why we haven't seen more of that, i'll chalk that up to our coaches b/c i can't think of any other legit reason.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:06 am to TeddyPadillac
You can develop something behind the scenes and slowly work it into a game situation. Jackson has to have enough confidence to pull the trigger in the game as well.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:21 am to Tigercowboy
He has to have the coaches confidence to pull the trigger as well. I'm not really blaming the coaching that much. I just am not really liking SVG's offense at all right now, although personnel issues are a big reason.
AD said it during one of the games, coaches will never get mad at you for taking shots outside of your norm if they know you have been putting in the time off the court working on it.
For instance, Richaun Holmes took a corner 3 late in the game last night. That was his 4th 3 this season. I doubt he works on taking 3's considering he didn't attempt a single one the last 2 years. That was a stupid undisciplined shot that he should get blasted for when watching film today.
Jaxson on the other hand caught a pass near the elbow with two guys in front of him and with no hesitation went up for the jump shot and made it. That was a smart decision, and he will very likely be praised for it in the film room today.
AD said it during one of the games, coaches will never get mad at you for taking shots outside of your norm if they know you have been putting in the time off the court working on it.
For instance, Richaun Holmes took a corner 3 late in the game last night. That was his 4th 3 this season. I doubt he works on taking 3's considering he didn't attempt a single one the last 2 years. That was a stupid undisciplined shot that he should get blasted for when watching film today.
Jaxson on the other hand caught a pass near the elbow with two guys in front of him and with no hesitation went up for the jump shot and made it. That was a smart decision, and he will very likely be praised for it in the film room today.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 9:34 am to LilWezyAna
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I could be misunderstanding you but 45 degrees is scientifically the ideal angle to shoot a basketball. Gives you the best possible chances of making a shot
Look at the video I posted.
He pulls the ball up in a diagonal motion across his eye to get it to his release point and shoots it from an off angle relative to the basket with the ball still covering his face.
It is actually something Lonzo had trouble with in a slightly different way and what Vinson worked on correcting.
It’s also something that it looked like he might have worked on in the offseason based on other footage but simply reverted back to. I’d like to see more jump shots in game to get a better feel if it’s simply regression on his adjusted form or the offseason footage was simply misleading and he still needs to work on it.
Either way I have contended since the beginning the key to Jaxson truly being part of this core with Zion will be him becoming a plus defender and able to stretch a defense
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