re: Spacing on this team is terrible.

quote:

---

The question is does Griff?

---

he definitely does.

I don’t trade Reddick to get anyone. You don’t need just one shooter. You need multiple. You’re not just solving for Bledsoe. You’re solving for Adams being a part of the future here.

You also can’t play Leonard with Adams. You literally already have a C who is going to get chased off the floor in small ball lineups and the playoffs. Why would you want a second? Gallo you can play and move Zion to C and it’s the perfect small ball lineup. You need to watch the games and look at how the players were playing. Leonard was unfrickingplayable in the playoffs. And I like Leonard. You now have THREE Cs who can't play against when the Lakers run AD at the 5, or Clippers when they run Serge out, still no one to guard Luka/Zinger. You're literally asking to get swept in the playoffs.

Lonzo Huerter BI Gallo Zion. That’s a running team. You don’t trot that out all the time. But when you do it scores.

Even Huerter BI Gallo Zion Adams is a huge upgrade over the shite we're running now.

The pathway to getting spacing lies in trading Bledsoe and hoping that Lonzo can be consistent. Bc Lonzo can shoot every now and then.

Bledsoe is a good player, but he's a horrible fit for this team now. And he's going to get far far worse.

LINK

Just did this trade. What do y’all think. It doesn’t necessarily move the needle for this year, but it gives us some flexibility going forward. Essentially, it is.....

Pels - Taurean Prince, Patrick Beverly, Ivica Zubac

Clippers - Eric Bledsoe, Deandre Jordan

Nets - JJ Redick, Lou Williams, Nico Melli

Keeps Pels under the Tax this year, and provides room to make another move next year with our picks.

quote:

---

Pels - Taurean Prince, Patrick Beverly, Ivica Zubac

---

Beverly doesn't help. He can't shoot. He's worse than Bledsoe.

Zubac is worse than Adams. If Adams can't play bc of smallball, then Zubac won't be able to either.

quote:

---

Clippers - Eric Bledsoe, Deandre Jordan

---

These are former clips, and there was bad blood in each case. They are both worse than the people leaving the clippers.

quote:

---

Nets - JJ Redick, Lou Williams, Nico Melli

---

the nets need stops. They already have Joe Harris who is JJ Redick if he lifted weights and defended beyond his wildest dreams. Kyrie does what Lou Williams does and he's actually good at it. The Nets already have a prolific offense. They need defense.

Melli can't hit shots yet. And in the best case, is a backup backup.

In short, this works for zero of the teams involved. In many ways, the players you are pitching double down on the existing weaknesses of the teams.

I do appreciate that the salaries add up!

quote:

---

NOW YOU'RE TALKING!

---

It works better for us long term honestly.

quote:

---

I'm not saying everything is fine as is or don't upgrade shooting. I'm saying expect the paint to be packed, how does that adjust your team building and offensive schemes? I think Melli might be the biggest problem right now. He's supposed to be the stretch big element we're missing and he's just not.

---

Which I think is why most people circle back to spacing. If teams are going to pack the paint then you want the types of guys most capable of making those teams pay for it.

First on that list would be elite 3 level scorers/creators like we have in Ingram, but those tend to be Max or near Max guys unless you’ve drafted one recently(and maybe we have in Kira or Naw), next up you’d probably want a multi skilled scorer/creator with elite shooting, then you’d probably just want shooting. Guys that don’t really penetrate super great(or in Lonzo’s case at all In the half court really) and don’t shoot super consistently(or just aren’t good) are pretty far down that list.

Obviously there is a whole other side of the ball, and that is where our current duo has value, and where you also have to be careful with whoever you add to build up the offense, but I think I’d gladly sacrifice a bit of that defensive might for a more cohesive unit to have on the offensive side. Especially given the scheme/philosophy we have. Ideally you don’t have to make that Sacrafice, and if we get there - much better offensive cohesion without giving up our defensive ceiling - I think you will have found your championship roster.

quote:

---

our problem is that we're starting and paying a big who should be a backup in today's NBA

---

Steven Adams is not a backup big.
He has the highest +/- on the team by a good bit by the way.

quote:

---

And you're trying to solve it by adding another backup big. Instead of finding ways to make the backup big that we are already overpaying more playable.

---

You want to add Gallo, which is essentially, a backup big, who makes way too much money. What is the difference between Gallo and Leonard? BOth suck on defense, both can hit open 3's, one is paid twice as much as they other.


Adams is 100% playable. He is not the problem. He is part of the solution to this team succeeding. If Zion gave a shite about rebounding, we wouldn't need Adams. Zion gets boards mostly b/c they fall to him, and he gets his put backs on offense. He makes little effort to actually rebound, and Lonzo and Hart play a big role in covering that up.

nothign about anythign that has been said has anythign to do with Asik, and I was the very loud minority not wanting him back.

We need a stretch big, someone that we shouldn't be paying more than MLE money for at most. We also need a fricken 3&D guy that can play the 4 in small ball lineups. THat's not Josh Hart and that's not BI. I have no intention of ever playign Leonard and Adams together, but Leonard compliments both Zion and Adams well.

quote:

---

Steven Adams is not a backup big.
He has the highest +/- on the team by a good bit by the way.

---

In a league that is eschewing traditional 5s, Steven Adams is a backup big, in that he can not play against all starting 5s. His role is becoming situational, like a 3rd down back.

quote:

---

You want to add Gallo, which is essentially, a backup big, who makes way too much money. What is the difference between Gallo and Leonard? BOth suck on defense, both can hit open 3's, one is paid twice as much as they other.

---

Because Gallo is available. He can most definitely play PF. And his salary allows us to get rid of Bledsoe.

quote:

---

Adams is 100% playable.

---

No. He isn't. He got roasted in the playoffs. he was terrible. If you want this team to succeed, you need to understand that mitigating Adams non-shooting, traditional big man tendencies is key to their success. I didn't say trade Adams. You find pieces that make Adams limitations a non-issue. Adams is the perfect C in 2006. Not in 2021.

quote:

---

He is not the problem. He is part of the solution to this team succeeding. If Zion gave a shite about rebounding, we wouldn't need Adams. Zion gets boards mostly b/c they fall to him, and he gets his put backs on offense.

---

If you think the answer to winning in the league is rebounding, then you'd be right. But that hasn't been the answer in this league for a long time.

quote:

---

nothign about anythign that has been said has anythign to do with Asik, and I was the very loud minority not wanting him back.

---

Yes it does. It would be having three centers on the roster taking up a lot of space, none of whom can play together in crunch time.

quote:

---

We need a stretch big, someone that we shouldn't be paying more than MLE money for at most.

---

Name one. And if they exist, the Clippers and Lakers are going to sign them before we do. Ibaka would be great on this team. We traded for the wrong ex Thunder player.

I literally named the best shooting stretch big on a team that doesn't need him. you just don't like his price. Gallo and Huerter for Bledsoe is literally exactly what this team needs. They cost the same. Bledsoe is an injury prone, non shooting PG who is THIRTY FRIGGIN ONE. Bledsoe is Westbrook-lite. You think Gallo is gonna breakdown before Bledsoe? You think Bledsoe is gonna age well?

There is also not a lot of teams that need what Bledsoe provides. Toughness and D, while having the shooting to accommodate his non-shooting. Atlanta is that team.

quote:

---

We also need a fricken 3&D guy that can play the 4 in small ball lineups.

---

BI is a small ball 4. frick Zion is a small ball 4. You need a 3-D wing. Like Reddish or Hunter. But they're not avail. So Huerter is pretty damn good.

quote:

---

I have no intention of ever playign Leonard and Adams together, but Leonard compliments both Zion and Adams well.

---

You have a literal contradiction in your statement. How can a player complement another player if they're not ever going to play together? If Adams is the best plus/minus on the team and he needs to play 36 minutes a game, why would you trade for a player who can then, defacto, only play 12?


Leonard would be a dumb, dumb, dumb move. Like say re-signing Asik. The Pels don't need another 5. It is arguable that in today's NBA teams even need a 5 at all. They need shooting and to be able to mitigate the 5 they already have.

I live in LA. My best friends are clippers fans. They do not want or need Bledsoe. And no he can not shoot. I’ve watched him far more than I care to.