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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:09 pm to
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and give Willie another full year (hope no injuries happen ever)- then make a decision on Willie in 2026. Wow what a genius idea!!!


Exactly! Forget Zion Ingram CJ Herb Trey and Murray missing a shite ton of games already this year! The second Yves sprains his ankle next year with everyone healthy willie has got to go! It's the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:15 pm to
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Exactly! Forget Zion Ingram CJ Herb Trey and Murray missing a shite ton of games already this year! The second Yves sprains his ankle next year with everyone healthy willie has got to go! It's the exact same thing.


Not if they just fire Willie this year! See thats the solution. Then you don’t have to post sarcastic game threads complaining about why people want Willie fired. We all win if they fire Willie!!!!
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:20 pm to
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Not if they just fire Willie this year! See thats the solution. Then you don’t have to post sarcastic game threads complaining about why people want Willie fired. We all win if they fire Willie!!!!


EXACTLY! I'm sure we'll hire a better coach and the roster will magically stay healthier. it's bound to happen!
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:23 pm to
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EXACTLY! I'm sure we'll hire a better coach and the roster will magically stay healthier. it's bound to happen!


Thats the spirit!!!
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:30 pm to
We’ve lost 4 of our last 7 by 26+. Any coach could do better than that even with the roster that played the last 7 games.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:42 pm to
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Any coach could do better than that even with the roster that played the last 7 games.


Cmon teddles you're better than this.
Posted by brmark70816
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:44 pm to
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We’ve lost 4 of our last 7 by 26+. Any coach could do better than that even with the roster that played the last 7 games.



I am the biggest McCollum fan on this board. He sucked tonight. So did Murray and Murphy. Defense was horrible and they shot horribly. That is 3 good players that had awful game. That just can't happen on any given night, but it did. Yet no one is saying shite about how bad they were. Its all about the coach.

I will keep saying this, if the coach had this much influence in the outcome of the game. Why are we only paying our coach a couple of million dollars? There is no cap on coaching salary. We could spend whatever we want. If he has more impact than any player, shouldn't he get paid like one?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:46 pm to
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Yet no one is saying shite about how bad they were. Its all about the coach.


DING DING DING
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:47 pm to
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I will keep saying this, if the coach had this much influence in the outcome of the game. Why are we only paying our coach a couple of million dollars? There is no cap on coaching salary. We could spend whatever we want. If he has more impact than any player, shouldn't he get paid like one?


Probably because Gayle pays a boatload on Griffin salary and he fired 2 other coaches that Gayle is still paying for. So we’re paying Willie peanuts for coaches salary and now we’re getting this garbage.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:51 pm to
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DING DING DING


Are coaches not responsible for players’ performances? Are they not judged on wins and losses? If players are not responding to coaches is that not a problem for the coach? If a coach cannot get his players to play better is that not on coaching?
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 8:55 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 8:57 pm to
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Our coaches not responsible for players’ performances?


Not nearly as much as the players themselves.

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Are they not judged on wins and losses?


Make chicken salad with chicken shite Willay!

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players are not responding to coaches is that not a problem for the coach?


Maybe, just maybe, all these bad players we're asking to play big minutes for realize they fricking suck and can't get out of their own head now that they've been at it for a few weeks.

And they should fricking respond because they've been fricking losing. That's a player problem. The fricking players suck on this fricking team. You do not have your best defensive player. You do not have your two best players. Waaaaaay below all of that is the "oh you know Willie could improve on a couple of things" aspect of it.

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a coach cannot get his players to play better is that not on coaching?


See my answers above. How much more juice are you getting out of guys that don't belong in the league getting more than 10 minutes of garbage time at best?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:06 pm to
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Not nearly as much as the players themselves.


You can’t just fire the players and keep the coach.

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Make chicken salad with chicken shite Willay!


This is your response in regards to judging a coach on wins/losses this year even though previously you talk about Willie getting 49 wins last year. Cant use the 49 wins argument and ignore the wins/losses this year with your chicken shite answer.

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Maybe, just maybe, all these bad players we're asking to play big minutes for realize they fricking suck and can't get out of their own head now that they've been at it for a few weeks. And they should fricking respond because they've been fricking losing. That's a player problem. The fricking players suck on this fricking team. You do not have your best defensive player. You do not have your two best players. Waaaaaay below all of that is the "oh you know Willie could improve on a couple of things" aspect of it.


The past 3 games- 2 of them we have lost by 30 or more points we have played Dejounte, Trey and CJ. They have played bad. Its all their fault? Not guy hired to lead them? Should we just cut all the players??

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How much more juice are you getting out of guys that don't belong in the league getting more than 10 minutes of garbage time at best?


You keep using injuries- we’re getting players back and still getting blown out by 30 plus. There is a significant coaching problem that you’ll acknowledge one day- I hope.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
25963 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:10 pm to
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You keep using injuries- we’re getting players back and still getting blown out by 30 plus


You keep saying this and it's a lie. We aren't getting players back. We're trading out. Ingram went out the second Murray came back. Hawk is in and out of the lineup still. Trey even missed another game and wasn't playing b2bs.

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There is a significant coaching problem that you’ll acknowledge one day- I hope.


You're clueless as to what an nba coach is capable of doing with a roster.

This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79195 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:14 pm to
Willie has to go after he completes the tank, but considering that Byron fricking Scott coached the best team in franchise history (and it's not remotely close), coaches are largely there for vibes and ATO's.

Thinking Willie leaving fixes everything is just nonsense.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
25963 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:15 pm to
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Willie has to go after he completes the tank, but considering that Byron fricking Scott coached the best team in franchise history (and it's not remotely close), coaches are largely there for vibes and ATO's.

Thinking Willie leaving fixes everything is just nonsense.


Even Broski agrees with me and he is the first one to dv my game threads!
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:16 pm to
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You keep saying this and it's a lie. We aren't getting players back. We're trading out. Ingram went out the second Murray came back. Hawk is in and out of the lineup still. Trey even missed another game and wasn't playing b2bs.


So I want to be clear on this according to you it’s permissible for Willie to be 4-17 because of the injuries and he should be brought back next year? Is this what you’re saying?

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79195 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Even Broski agrees with me and he is the first one to dv my game threads!



Scout's honor, I've never down voted you (or anyone) on TD. Not because I don't think some of your schtick is nauseating, but just because the upvote/downvote thing is really dumb.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:18 pm to
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Thinking Willie leaving fixes everything is just nonsense.


No one is saying he fixes the problem. This is just something wksf is assuming posters here are saying. I think he needs to go but there are several other problems which I have acknowledged.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
25963 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:19 pm to
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So I want to be clear on this according to you it’s permissible for Willie to be 4-17 because of the injuries and he should be brought back next year? Is this what you’re saying?


Next year is irrelevant to the discussion of these current 21 games.

How many more games do you think we win than what we have with this "better coach" you keep talking about?

2, 3 at most?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
25963 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 9:20 pm to
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I've never down voted you (or anyone) on TD.


You like me!

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Not because I don't think some of your schtick is nauseating


Ah goddammit
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