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re: Pelicans, Kings, and Blazers agree to Tyreke Evans/Withey trade

Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:09 pm to
'MURICA!
Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:12 pm to
Well guess i'll now be excited about the news and crack open a beer, cause Merica
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:14 pm to
Must be kings fans
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:14 pm to
Sons are staaaaaaaacked

NBA is fuuuuuuuuuuucked
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:18 pm to
I disagree with HP on this

We win 50 games IMO

Also I came
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 4:19 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26668 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:19 pm to
Baby Jesus certainly did this for 'MURICA, and the Pelicans.

frick YEAH!
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:19 pm to
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I disagree with HP on this
saying 8th seed is this team's ceiling is pretty absurd
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26668 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:20 pm to
Came on the girlfriends of kings fans everywhere...
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:21 pm to
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As if I needed a reason to drink even harder today

I'm scared for my liver tomorrow. No drinking because I have a test tomorrow. Celebrating the 4th, finishing my test, and the Pelicans tomorrow. I'm getting Spring Break level of drunk tomorrow
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18891 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:22 pm to
To be clear, it wasn't Matt Moore (guy who runs HP twitter) who wrote it, but another one of their writers. Apparently MM doesn't see it as negative as I do, so I'm trying to read it again. If it isn't totally negative then it's worded very strangely.
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Then for some reason the Pelicans have seemed to lose their patience for progress. They drafted Nerlens Noel, but flipped him to Philadelphia to take on Jrue Holliday and a little extra salary. Okay, fine, Holliday is an established All-Star and Noel is little more than a complete unknown at this point. Despite them taking on a little extra salary in the deal, they’d still have room for this summer and move Rivers to a more natural position: the bench shooting guard. If nothing else they now had solid point guard depth with Brian Roberts factored in.

Now, fast forward to this week where the team finalized a 4-year/$44 million dollar offer sheet with free agent Tyreke Evans. Evans is a nice player who could possibly do well with a change of scenery, but the Pelicans will be short on cap space with no other pending moves. Of course cap space has never won anyone a championship, but with the current construct of New Orleans’ roster they’re attempting to build a team that is capable of competing for the eighth seed, at best. This is basically the equivalent of speeding by someone on the road and accelerating to a red light.

I mean, is that not an extremely bleak outlook on this group?
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29542 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:24 pm to
So has Evans lightened up on his stance of playing SF for this team? I'm excited to see Holiday, Gordon and Evans on the court at the same time
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:26 pm to
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but the Pelicans will be short on cap space with no other pending moves.


Posted by chrisksaint
Florida
Member since Jul 2011
1712 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:27 pm to
The only negative is if Eric Gordon is terrible/injured, otherwise Jrue is an all star PG. Tyreke has tons of potential and durable, then obviously Anthony Davis and Ryan Anderson.

The biggest negative to this team to me is that were in the Western Conference
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18891 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:27 pm to
Clearly he's never met:

Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9040 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:29 pm to
He words it pretty negatively but it's actually what everyone on here has been saying. Demps is making these moves with the hope that Gordon stays healthy and regains his 20+ per game form, Davis emerges as 20/10 all-star, Evans is reinvigorated with a change of scenery, and Ryno and Holiday both improve their officeincy playing with better offensive talent.

IMO taking risks like this is the only way to build a small market team to contention, which this writer also acknowledges. He just also acknowledges the possibility that Gordon is injury plagued again, Tyreke is the exact same player he was in Sacramento, and Davis still has some growing pains in his second year. In which case we aren't THAT much better
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19524 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:31 pm to
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is if Eric Gordon is terrible/injured,
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if
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Eric Gordon
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injured
lol
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18891 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

He words it pretty negatively but it's actually what everyone on here has been saying. Demps is making these moves with the hope that Gordon stays healthy and regains his 20+ per game form, Davis emerges as 20/10 all-star, Evans is reinvigorated with a change of scenery, and Ryno and Holiday both improve their officeincy playing with better offensive talent.

IMO taking risks like this is the only way to build a small market team to contention, which this writer also acknowledges. He just also acknowledges the possibility that Gordon is injury plagued again, Tyreke is the exact same player he was in Sacramento, and Davis still has some growing pains in his second year. In which case we aren't THAT much better


Fair enough if you put it that way. I just see that Davis is pretty much guaranteed to be a top player in the league, Tyreke just had a great season and now has a defined role in a much more stable organization, Holiday already made an All-Star game and at 23 certainly shouldn't get worse, and Anderson was about what we expected and should keep that up. The only real big unknown is what happens with Gordon, but even with him struggling I don't see how an 8th seed is the ceiling.
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13156 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:40 pm to
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Tyreke now has a defined role


don't see it.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18891 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:41 pm to
6th man, Manu Ginobili-esque role is much more defined than moving around from PG, SG, and SF with what the Kings were trying to do.
Posted by macatak911
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 7/4/13 at 4:47 pm to
@ESPNSteinLine: Sources say Pelicans, already hot for Evans, were all in when Reke told them he'd be willing to be sixth man in New Orleans if necessary
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