re: McNamara trade ideas article

Why would the spurs want Lonzo?

They wouldn't. We can make more than one trade.

I'm just talking about replacing Lonzo with a quality PG. If we get rid of Lonzo, we need another starting quality guard.

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Are we going to give Favors a contract after this year?

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I don't know. And I don't know if he would take it or go elsewhere.

I think that depends on:

1) The development of Jaxson Hayes. Since the preseason, Jaxson has already made great progress. How much more can he make before the trade deadline, and is that enough for the front office to decide that what we can get for Favors is worth it?

2) How much time does Zion spend playing center, and how do we look when he does that?

Personally, I can imagine Favors getting traded. I made a thread last week on that, but I was wrong in thinking that Favors could get traded soon. If it happens, I don't think it happens until right before the trade deadline, as Griffin will want to use all the time that he can to see what our future looks like with Jaxson and Zion playing center.

I agree, Jaxson won’t be ready for that responsibility as early as next year. You also really take a step back in depth if you don’t keep Favors and Jaxson is super cheap right now.

Unless they trade him for another center like Myles Turner I’d expect them to try and resign Favors. If he gets a 4 year offer on the market he might be gone, but 2/$40 seems like something the Pels could be happy with.

Yeah if you get him ata round that salary it is sort of a no brainer.

Much like Reddick it’s basically house money unless he has a catastrophic injury, as he, unlike awful reaches like Solomon Hill or overpays like Gordon, is going to be a positive asset. So if Jaxson develops quicker than expected, the fit with Zion isn’t ideal, or minutes decrease, you should be able to move Favors and get equal value.

Y'all make good points about why we should keep Favors, but also bring up why we might not. I should've added a third question:

3) How well does Favors fit with Zion? In the preseason, it looked like Favors mostly just got in Zion's way. If Zion isn't going to play the 5, then someone like Turner who can shoot 3s might be a much better fit, by clearing the lane and giving Zion an easier path to dunks.

I really want to see how the Zion+Favors combo works at the offensive end, compared to things like Zion+Kenrich or Zion+Melli. That's another reason that, if we end up trading Favors, it wouldn't be until right before the trade deadline.

That's the terrible thing about Zion's injury -- not only have we lost all these games, but we haven't had the opportunity to see how well our pieces fit together.

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He hasn't looked good to us, but there were quite a few experts around the league who felt Lonzo, not Ingram, had the most potential of the players the Pels got back.

The general sentiment was "if he could learn to shoot he'd be an All Star". Well he's improved his 3 point shot some so the people who believed in him before should still believe in him. Maybe you get a 3 way deal going for a player you want like Mills.

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And if many experts feel that way, it makes you wonder if he is being used correctly here. If you recall. many on this board thought that we should deal Ingram based on the preseason as he "did not fit" this team. I want to see if he improves before dumping him.

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He isn’t playing the style of basketball he needs to play,

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improved ft from worst starter in nba 45% to just terrible 60%.

One of these days he'll hit 4 out of 6 3s and 6 out 7 ft. On that day, trade him for a 2 and be glad you dont have to watch him.

Remember, pels did not waste 2nd pick on him or first pick on the dud from Washington.

Actual cost of lonzo is his big salary. He was a throw in, erasing laker magic error.

Hart and ingram are the trade.

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For me it’s all how he fits with Zion. If his passing unlocks Zion and makes the game easier for him, you probably keep him. But I really think long term he’s not a fit as Ingram and Zion will be the ones with the ball down the stretch.

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I think the article & pod bring up a very interesting insight to the building of this roster. We have 3 young rookies that need work. We have Frank & Jah without a clear role. What will Lonzo be? etc, etc, etc. we cannot invest our time & energy into every young guy (including future picks). and we need to make many decisions on whether to continue developing player A because you see more potential, or cutting bait and looking in another direction. This is conversation we are currently having with Lonzo, but will end up having about NAW & Hayes soon too.


the problem in this case with Lonzo, is that because of the pedigree of a #2 pick, will we hold on too long and/or will HE accept a role that doesn't line up with his reality as a former #2?


so the question that must be answered is "at what point do you continue to invest? and at what point do you cut your losses?" those decisions are critical in a long line of upcoming critical decisions

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we need to make many decisions on whether to continue developing player A because you see more potential, or cutting bait and looking in another direction.

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Jaxson is a real wild card. Does he make Myles Turner the perfect compliment to himself and Zion, or is he going to be so good that he makes Myles Turner overkill and a waste of assets to acquire?