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re: Landry being pursued by Italian team

Posted on 7/5/11 at 11:27 am to
Posted by americanoutlaw
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 11:27 am to
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I stand by this statement. You may have some that are washing up that make their way over there, but it will be more of a Beckham to LA type of situation than anything.

Hopefully none of these guys end up hurt and bounce back nad forth between the two leagues like he does.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 12:01 pm to
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Hopefully none of these guys end up hurt and bounce back nad forth between the two leagues like he does


Which is why no one with serious NBA earning potential will make the jump. There may be a few middling stars, but they real stars will need a serious insurance policy for it to make any sense.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 7:11 pm to
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no

they're locking players out to cut the players' salaries. that's the vast majority of the reason there is a lockout




you're wrong, the reason the NBA is locking out because it's a not a level playing field.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 7:12 pm to
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Here is a link to players considering China
LINK

ETA: Said Europe instead of China.


never going to happen, dumbass
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 9:36 pm to
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the reason the NBA is locking out because it's a not a level playing field.

then why is the focus on slashing payrolls and not revenue sharing?
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 7/5/11 at 9:44 pm to
why would the owners allow themselves to be divided on revenue sharing when they can unite against payroll and market value? For a law student,you should be smarter than that.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 3:57 am to
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The NBA is a 5 or 6 team league

As it has been for decades.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 4:00 am to
You just won't stand for all these dumbasses and people who aren't smart!!!!
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 11:50 am to
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you're wrong, the reason the NBA is locking out because it's a not a level playing field.

player salaries and overall payrolls

In the end, if the owners get what they want, it will create more of a level playing field.
This post was edited on 7/6/11 at 11:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 5:32 pm to
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why would the owners allow themselves to be divided on revenue sharing when they can unite against payroll and market value?

market value of what?

and they will be divided on revenue sharing, when they get around to discussing it

first step: break players' backs and get a 10-25% reduction in salary costs

second step: figure out what the actual CBA will entail
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/6/11 at 5:33 pm to
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In the end, if the owners get what they want, it will create more of a level playing field.

i do not think this will happen

it will be a similar system, but cheaper, salary-wise
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 7:36 am to
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first step: break players' backs and get a 10-25% reduction in salary costs




They make an average of $4.79 million per year. I don't quite think $4.07 million per year amounts to "breaking players' backs."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 8:11 am to
yeah nobody in "real work" has bitched about 10-15% salary reductions the past few years. NOBODY
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 9:12 am to
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yeah nobody in "real work" has bitched about 10-15% salary reductions the past few years. NOBODY


I hope you understand that 85% of $4 million is still 67 times as much as 85% of $60,000. Trying to compare a grossly overpaid athlete giving up 15% with a person who is working 9-5 with middling income is outright ignorant. God forbid they only own 6 cars instead of the much more reasonable 9.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:51 am to
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85% of $4 million

the #s are irrelevant in this discussion

you cannot compare this to real life, b/c it's not "real life." it's major american sports

quote:

grossly overpaid athlete

what? if teams could give more than max salaries to many players, they would. if there was no cap, the average player salary would be higher.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 12:54 pm to
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the #s are irrelevant in this discussion

you cannot compare this to real life, b/c it's not "real life." it's major american sports


You are the one that brought it up there, honcho overlord.

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what? if teams could give more than max salaries to many players, they would. if there was no cap, the average player salary would be higher.



If my aunt had a piece, she'd be my uncle. Your statement does absolutely nothing to devalue what I said. In the "real world" as you call it, they are grossly overpaid, as they provide no tangible service to society. Yet you complain about ticket prices, the Hornets leaving, etc. You can't have it both ways.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 1:07 pm to
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In the "real world" as you call it, they are grossly overpaid, as they provide no tangible service to society.

we pay out the arse for entertainment. humans in societies have done this for centuries

if they were overpaid, the market would correct itself
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 1:20 pm to
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if they were overpaid, the market would correct itself


And a new CBA with reduced salaries is not EXACTLY that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/7/11 at 1:22 pm to
collectively bargaining between 2 parties eliminates the pure market

baseball is the closest thing to a "free market" model, and imagine if the NBA had that system. do you think players would get more money or less money?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 2:44 pm to
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baseball is the closest thing to a "free market" model


How does revenue sharing fit into a "free market"? It doesn't.

So, for the record, you prefer revenue sharing over a lowered cap?
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