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Ingram article from Lopez
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:58 am
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"That was three weeks that passed, and I was just coming in and trying to play 30 minutes after all that and be locked in. I was, of course, hard on myself because I didn't think it mattered that I just came off the knee injury. Those first two games didn't go how I wanted to go, but I just wanted to give it all tonight and trust my teammates, trust my stuff, and we ended up winning."
Some pretty good stuff in this one about him coming back and picking up the third foul:
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I told him, 'I'm taking you out.' And he said, 'No, I need you to trust me,'" Green said. "So that's the relationship part of it that he and I, along with the rest of the guys, you build a relationship, and that's a moment where I said, 'OK, I trust you. You better not pick up your fourth.' And he was able to play through it."
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:03 am to whatiknowsofar
This is the BI we need. One that doesn't give two fricks.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:14 am to supe12sta12z
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This is the BI we need.
Brandon Ingram's fit problems have been about 3 things
1) His defense, which he seems to have largely addressed this season. He's not perfect, but especially post ASB his effort and effectiveness have been better and we saw it on display last night. Pre ASB his DRtg was 113. Post ASB it's 110.6, so the stats match the eye test as well.
2) His habits, he's still not their on his shot chart or what he does when things get hard. He needs to get more comfortable with taking up 3s instead of dribbling into a contested mid range shot.
3) His pace. This is probably the biggest issue. The team needs to play fast and with movement in the half court. When he dribbles methodically for 15 seconds while his teammates watch him, that's not the offense the Pels need and it's probably the biggest bad habit he needs to break. If he needs to do BI things like dribble into a contested middie, fine, but do it faster so your teammates will be involved options instead of bored onlookers.
I know a lot of people think we're doomed if he signs his next contract here, but I disagree with those that think he becomes a negative trade value at that point, and I also think he can continue to evolve as a player into something that fits better here.
That doesn't mean their aren't better paths to take from here than continuing with BI, but of the realistic paths, I think many are worse than expecting BI to keep improving his defense and inching towards breaking his bad habits on offense.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 11:17 am
Posted on 4/20/24 at 11:47 am to TigerinATL
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Brandon Ingram's fit problems have been about 3 things
The list begins and ends with durability. He has missed 20 or more games every season and is a guy that seems to need a ramp up to find his own rhythm when playing.
Every OKC starter played over 70 games this season. Chet played 82.
Ingram needs to play more games.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:13 pm to TigerinATL
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His pace. This is probably the biggest issue. The team needs to play fast and with movement in the half court. When he dribbles methodically for 15 seconds while his teammates watch him, that's not the offense the Pels need and it's probably the biggest bad habit he needs to break. If he needs to do BI things like dribble into a contested middie, fine, but do it faster so your teammates will be involved options instead of bored onlookers.
It depends. There will be times when this is exactly what you need, but it's a matter of figuring out how to switch between 2 entirely different styles, with or without Zion. Zion just plays like Zion.
That's where I feel like people don't give Ingram enough credit. When Zion has gone down in the past, he has been asked to carry the team offensively. Zion is just such a weird player. Everything needs to work through him to work best, so his presence shifts everyone else's role down the pecking order. We're asking BI to sit back and take more spot-up 3s after years of asking him to create, while also asking him to create when Zion leaves the floor. It's hard to be consistent in an inconsistent role.
Here's another thing that people who gripe about his middies are missing: he sets up a lot of open 3s because of the gravity that his mid-range jumper has. His length and vision gives you a lot of those skip-passes over the help to his man in the corner.
I think the biggest issue is that both are excellent in that point forward role. That said, the emotional folks are kind of prisoners of the moment, because we looked REALLY frickING GOOD in the months before BI got hurt. They seemed to have worked out a nice chemistry. People losing their shite over his first 2 games back after a scary knee injury was always silly.
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:15 pm to ned nederlander
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The list begins and ends with durability.
Well if that's the case, then the only top-tier player we have "that fits" is CJ.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 3:19 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I told him, 'I'm taking you out.' And he said, 'No, I need you to trust me,'" Green said. "So that's the relationship part of it that he and I, along with the rest of the guys, you build a relationship, and that's a moment where I said, 'OK, I trust you. You better not pick up your fourth.' And he was able to play through it."
Bad game or not. Did zion 0 favors having him glued to the bench vs lal
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