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re: I have no words for this loss
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:02 am to Pelliveli
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:02 am to Pelliveli
They are the fifth youngest team in the league.
So yes, they are young.
Let me remind you what Dame’s clutch stats looked like at age 24:
31-91 34%fg
9-40 22% 3P
Can’t believe Portland didnt get rid of that bum. 24 years old, you are what you are amirite?
Just because you want to live in your feels and are incapable of thinking rationally doesn’t mean you give more of a shite about this franchise.
Some of us are simply capable of looking at basketball without living in our emotions of the moment and acting like bipolar man children depending on the outcome of a single game.
So yes, they are young.
Let me remind you what Dame’s clutch stats looked like at age 24:
31-91 34%fg
9-40 22% 3P
Can’t believe Portland didnt get rid of that bum. 24 years old, you are what you are amirite?
Just because you want to live in your feels and are incapable of thinking rationally doesn’t mean you give more of a shite about this franchise.
Some of us are simply capable of looking at basketball without living in our emotions of the moment and acting like bipolar man children depending on the outcome of a single game.
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:05 am to Bronc
Oh god, not you again Uncle Bronc.... You do realize that was Dame’s 3rd year not his 5th right? You try to dismiss everyone’s else’s perspective as irrational, yet you ignore any type of context when providing these stats. Not to mention the youngest players on the team hardly play! You can pretty much remove Kira, little, Wenyen from the conversation
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 11:08 am
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:08 am to jmcwhrter
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Lillard also had 18 free throws and Lonzo had 2 personal fouls.....
that's b/c Lonzo doesn't foul. When he gets beat, he just lets it go. You ever seen Lonzo foul a screener, or a screener get called for a foul? nah, b/c he runs right into their chest almost every time. How many times last night did Lillard get past Lonzo from a screen, which happens to everyone, and Adams or Hayes or Zion was left having to guard 2 on 1? All night, and it's why guys like Lillard, and Lavine, and Luka, and Mitchell and Fox have had season highs against us. There was one play last night where Lillard got past Bledsoe on the screen, but Bledsoe sprinted down the lane and challenged Lillard on the layup, and he missed it, and didn't get fouled. That's what i want to see more from Lonzo, but that's not something he ever really does b/c he rarely gets in there enough b/c it appears he's scared to get called for a foul.
and when Lillard played Jrue this year, he had 19 points, 5 free throws.
And i'll say it again, i don't think Lonzo is a bad defender, just that he's no where near elite at it like Jrue.
And while i know its fun to hate on Bledsoe, if you actually watch how he fights through screens (when he's giving a shite) he is a lot better at it than Lonzo. That is Lonzo's biggest weakness on defense. He is absolutely terrible at getting through screens.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:10 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Honest question, how many here have ever said that?
And i'll say it again, i don't think Lonzo is a bad defender, just that he's no where near elite at it like Jrue.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:10 am to Bronc
quote:People are still doing the "Pels aren't a young team" thing?
They are the fifth youngest team in the league.
So yes, they are young.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:15 am to shel311
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Honest question, how many here have ever said that?
No one lately. My point is we need an elite defender, and we don't have one. Lonzo cannot be our best perimeter defender, he's just not good enough.
I was thinking last night, man it would be awesome to have Gary Trent Jr be our SG. That is the perfect type of SG to fit with Lonzo/BI/Zion. Must be nice to actually make picks in the 2nd round and have one of them turn into good player.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:18 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Agreed. Given how bad BI is and Zion improving but probably not going to be an elite defender, I don't think we ever have a good defense if Lonzo is our best perimeter defender. He's solid, just not THAT good.
My point is we need an elite defender, and we don't have one. Lonzo cannot be our best perimeter defender, he's just not good enough.
quote:Yea, I've posted about him a couple of times before, perfect fit for the Pels.
I was thinking last night, man it would be awesome to have Gary Trent Jr be our SG. That is the perfect type of SG to fit with Lonzo/BI/Zion. Must be nice to actually make picks in the 2nd round and have one of them turn into good player.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:48 am to Pelliveli
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Oh god, not you again Uncle Bronc.... You do realize that was Dame’s 3rd year not his 5th right? You try to dismiss everyone’s else’s perspective as irrational, yet you ignore any type of context when providing these stats. Not to mention the youngest players on the team hardly play! You can pretty much remove Kira, little, Wenyen from the conversation
Explain to me what rational point you have made so far that people are ignoring?
You and most of the casuals that only show up here to melt after losses are acting like grown men throwing temper tantrums and adding nothing of value to these conversations.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 11:57 am
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:03 pm to Bronc
1. You do realize that was Dame’s 3rd year not his 5th right?
2. You can pretty much remove Kira, little, Wenyen from the conversation of this being a “young team” because they hardly even play. Especially not in the clutch. Just zero context on your end. Also by that logic every team older than us should be better and every team younger than us should be worse. And don’t even bring up continuity because you’d be moving the goal post and you didn’t mention any context whatsoever in your initial rant.
3. Why do you keep talking this casual shite, like you’re actually employed by an NBA team? Lol none of us are professional analysts.
2. You can pretty much remove Kira, little, Wenyen from the conversation of this being a “young team” because they hardly even play. Especially not in the clutch. Just zero context on your end. Also by that logic every team older than us should be better and every team younger than us should be worse. And don’t even bring up continuity because you’d be moving the goal post and you didn’t mention any context whatsoever in your initial rant.
3. Why do you keep talking this casual shite, like you’re actually employed by an NBA team? Lol none of us are professional analysts.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:05 pm to TeddyPadillac
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No one lately. My point is we need an elite defender, and we don't have one. Lonzo cannot be our best perimeter defender, he's just not good enough.
Lonzo’s trend lines are insanely impressive though, he’s not the problem defensively.
Our problem is that most games he’s the only guy we have putting in consistent effort and playing smart defense. That and when teams like Portland go small we have nothing that counters them defensively. I wouldn’t be shocked if we end up trying to use Meli next game because he’s basically the only one that could maybe help against that closing lineup without creating spacing or match up issues.
I 100% get why we are looking at Nance and Gordon, I just don’t think they are worth that premium. But I’ll admit that had you had either of those guys last night this probably looks like a much different ending. Adams can’t play in those lineups because he is easy to abuse, and Zion isn’t ready to anchor the five. Jaxson has shown improvement but he presents the same spacing problems for BI and Zion that Adams does(something that should be getting talked about a lot more than it does is how the lack of spacing is compounding BI’s struggles).
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:19 pm to Pelliveli
quote:
1. You do realize that was Dame’s 3rd year not his 5th right?
Dame was a four year college player and BI is actually only 23.
The point is a players career is not written by the time they are 24.
This notion that you reactionaries are caving to that, well, that’s it, BI just doesn’t have it, sell him, he’s garbage, won’t amount to anything or be able to play in the clutch is low IQ reactionary nonsense.
We do not have an elite half court iso facilitator on this team at this time. There’s a strong case to be made that we should use Zion more frequently in these situations, because statistically he is the strongest amongst our starters, but because we lack that playmaker it is forcing BI into a role he shouldn’t be in, often in lineups that further compound those problems because of the lack of spacing for a guy that was once an elite slasher.
Which is why someone that might stop to actually look at this in some context would realize BI used to be a very solid clutch player in LA when he was not being asked to be the sole playmaker in the clutch and had better spacing to attack the basket.
quote:
Why do you keep talking this casual shite,
Because you have demonstrated nothing of substance in your time here.
You show up to whine and offer low IQ hot takes, borderline creepy personal insults, and little else.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:38 pm to REG861
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If tonight didn’t teach us that Ingram is expendable nothing will.
Yes, because the Pelicans have a long history of bringing in all stars in free agency so we can view the ones we have as expendable.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 1:14 pm to Bronc
Like I said before you provided zero context when mentioning Dame before...thanks for further proving my point. Secondly we’re talking about his lack of clutch ability in several areas and instances. FTs, defense, rebounding, turnovers, etc. you’re presuming that people are one referring to his shot making ability. I chalk it up to his mental toughness and physical strength at this stage in his career. No one said it’s over for him, everyone is saying he needs to step up. You’re saying Dame was a 4 year college player. Welll BI is a 4+ year professional player! He’s not making any excuses for himself, so you can let go of his balls sir.
Also who do you think actually agrees with “where’s my hug” arse? You’re a clown, not even an entertaining clown, just an ole Wayne Gacy clown who is content with being a loser because what happened to you in the family garage as a youth (maybe that’s why you want to keep this team young forever)
You throw out useless analytics, that have nothing to do with what actually happened during the specific games. Like “Kira is shooting 100% from the 3 this year in 4th quarter. That puts him in the top 90 percentile ” But you’ll totally leave out that Kira only took 1 three in the 4th this entire season lol
Also who do you think actually agrees with “where’s my hug” arse? You’re a clown, not even an entertaining clown, just an ole Wayne Gacy clown who is content with being a loser because what happened to you in the family garage as a youth (maybe that’s why you want to keep this team young forever)
You throw out useless analytics, that have nothing to do with what actually happened during the specific games. Like “Kira is shooting 100% from the 3 this year in 4th quarter. That puts him in the top 90 percentile ” But you’ll totally leave out that Kira only took 1 three in the 4th this entire season lol
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 1:57 pm to Pelliveli
quote:
Also who do you think actually agrees with “where’s my hug” arse? You’re a clown, not even an entertaining clown, just an ole Wayne Gacy clown who is content with being a loser because what happened to you in the family garage as a youth (maybe that’s why you want to keep this team young forever)
Oh shite haha, I almost forgot who I was talking to until this
You’re that creepy guy that melted all over the board and then used me calling you immature to go on an unhinged multi page rant where you turned every thing into these sorts of creepily descriptive and detailed stories about touching kids. Like some suppressed ID fueled Freudian projection.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 2:04 pm to CelticDog
Not sure how serious your post was, but I’m certainly not getting down on NAW for choking on one play. It was a terrible play but it was just one play.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 2:12 pm to Bronc
Na not really, I just took your moment of weakness and confession about your dealings with your niece, whom you seem to think is very “mature” and used it to expose your sick behavior and need for validation through out of context basketball analytics. That’s all Unc lol still lying to your family, her, and yourself I see
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 2:21 pm to Pelliveli
Sure pal.
Because I know the first thing normal people do when someone calls them immature by comparing their behavior to a child... is to spend three pages coming up with weirdly descriptive and specific narratives around pedophilia. Then weeks later inject yet more bizarrely descriptive pedo stuff into the middle of an argument about the fair and unfair expectations/criticisms we should have around the clutch performances of our young star.
Because I know the first thing normal people do when someone calls them immature by comparing their behavior to a child... is to spend three pages coming up with weirdly descriptive and specific narratives around pedophilia. Then weeks later inject yet more bizarrely descriptive pedo stuff into the middle of an argument about the fair and unfair expectations/criticisms we should have around the clutch performances of our young star.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 2:27 pm to Bronc
You nor Your kind are really worthy of any respectful debate. You also never address any opposing points of view. I also never mentioned anything you just said. I really wish you’d talk to someone and stop bringing your demons here. We’re here to talk about basketball not your escapades during Xmas.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 7:00 pm to Bronc
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Lonzo’s trend lines are insanely impressive though, he’s not the problem defensively.
Our problem is that most games he’s the only guy we have putting in consistent effort and playing smart defense.
Hart works his arse off. I feel like he gives 100%.
I will take your word for it if hes not playing smart. I never watch in person and I dont see enough games to know.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:53 pm to CelticDog
quote:
Hart works his arse off. I feel like he gives 100%.
You are right and I should have said in terms of our starting unit.
Hart is an energy machine and seems to always bring it. I’ve advocated before and still would be down for replacing Bledsoe with Hart in the starting lineup
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