re: Game Thread: Pels @ Pacers (6pm)

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We’re asking a guy who’s been a coach for 3 and half years to give us an advantage somehow.

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You already said guys are playing over their head. That's due to a coach that's maximizing what they do well.

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If Willie needs a perfect roster and perfect health to win close games- than Willie should just resign.

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Stop. We're down Ingram Zion DJ Herb. Even one of those dudes is here this game it's a dub. Perfect roster my arse. How about 80% of the starters healthy?

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This team desperately needs at least a top 15 coach

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Congrats! Willie's record last year says he was. Easily.

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No team in the NBA- is perfectly healthy- especially the pelicans. You still need to find a way to win.

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Make chicken salad with chicken shite Willie gosh

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Congrats! Willie's record last year says he was. Easily.

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His own star player on media day says they were winning on talent alone (BI). I think basing how good a coach strictly off records is being disingenuous.

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You already said guys are playing over their head. That's due to a coach that's maximizing what they do well.

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I will give credit to Willie for guys like Payton and Boston. At the same time, he deserves harsh criticism for playing a guy like Theis-who literally is losing you the game.

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Stop. We're down Ingram Zion DJ Herb. Even one of those dudes is here this game it's a dub. Perfect roster my arse. How about 80% of the starters healthy?

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Every NBA team is down somebody. They were healthy last year and struggled mightily in the fourth and clutch. Same issues persist. This isn’t a talent issue.

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Make chicken salad with chicken shite Willie gosh

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Willie couldn’t make chicken salad if it was premade.

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Health isn't an issue. It's a crippling circumstances. And it is absolutely a talent issue. Its wild guys continue to bash Willie when he is missing this much talent. Eric Spoelstra is getting you 2-3 more wins tops with this roster at best. That's how bad the injuries are.

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Look we suck and yes we have a ton of injuries. We are all frustrated but we bash Willie because its warranted. Its the same crap issues- rotations, misusing timeouts, unnecessary playing players that are continually hurting you. This happens EVERY year. Healthy or not- these are constant issues with Willie. We won last year despite Willie’s issues and even then there is an argument we should have been easily a 50 or more win team and avoided the play-in. My point its NOT JUST the injuries. We’ll be healthy and you’ll still see bad coaching and rotations- we may win but that doesn’t mean Willie coached well. Willie’s best asset is that hes a motivator but at some point you need more than that from your head coach after 3 years.

Regardless 10 games under .500- lets hope they win Wednesday.

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But your starting PG goes down in Game 1 and he isn’t resigned. Then Jose goes down and it’s several games before we sign Elfrid when we have no actual PG on the team. Thats organizational and coaching malpractice. Think about it, we have no PG on the team after Jose gets hurt. We also have a bunch of guys who for the most part have never played in the NBA. Do you think these young guys could have used a vet who knows the ropes?? I really wish our beat writers would ask Willie and Griff that.

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Christian Clark in his podcast “From The Wing” stated that before they signed Nowell they actually tried signing 3 other guys- Fultz, Dennis Smith Jr., and Elfrid Payton. Unfortunately all three at the time were hurt and could not play immediately- something they desperately needed. So hence they signed Nowell. With Nowell struggling and Payton healthy- they brought back Payton. If Payton was hurt- it makes sense since the Pels were desperate for guys who could play immediately.

If that’s the case then Willie and Griff get a pass on that. My bad for assuming it was incompetence.

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You play small with JRE at center.

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JRE at center has been terrible every single time we have tried it. JRE has played well at PF, but he's a terrible center. In the games where both have played center, Theis has significantly outperformed JRE.

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JRE has played well at PF, but he's a terrible center. In the games where both have played center, Theis has significantly outperformed JRE.

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Yeah I don’t see that. I would love to see the stats behind this proving thats true. Saying Theis “significantly” better is saying a lot considering Theis has been absolutely abysmal.

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Theis had an abysmal game last night, but his play otherwise hasn't been bad at all.

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Yes it has. Im sorry just stating this doesn’t make it true. He was racking up healthy DNPs and losing minutes to Jemison. I can literally say hes had one “OK” game out of the 18 we have played. Hes been a horribly bad player for us this season.

His pts per game, TS %, 3 pt %, are all career lows. When its comes to PER for centers in the NBA- Theis is ranked 45 while Jemison is 44. There is nothing defending that Theis has been better than a bad player for us this season.

Theis should never play again this season. Missi is the starting unless we trade for a better center.

I actually liked the way we played this game. I thought CJ and Trey were great. They has multiple 3s that shouldve gone in and rimmed out. Playing with a real PG changed everything.

A lineup im dying to see when we're healthy is DM, CJ, Herb, Trey, and Missi.

I think that line up can run, space and play respectable defense