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re: Don't Fire Monty!!!
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:27 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:27 pm to TigerinATL
This is what Monty said about Rivers a few weeks before the draft:
smh.
And yea I would rather have taken Lamb. Especially considering we already had a 2 guard in Gordon. I would have rather taken Lamb, Harkless, Henson and Terrence Jones over Rivers.
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“A lot of guys can handle the ball, but they don’t have command,” Williams said. “I think he has command of the ball. He can dribble and see what’s going on.
smh.
And yea I would rather have taken Lamb. Especially considering we already had a 2 guard in Gordon. I would have rather taken Lamb, Harkless, Henson and Terrence Jones over Rivers.
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Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:28 pm to htran90
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said it before, and I'll say it again. Jeremy Lamb.
Damn! If only we could of got a guy who averages 7.7 points, 1.2 assists, and 2.2 rebounds!!!!!!
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:29 pm to htran90
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Rivers and Monty are good friends. I wonder...You probably argue that it isn't sean payton, but loomis that makes the picks too right?
Maybe he put in a good word for Rivers. I'm sure he was even consulted by Demps, but a GM is not going to just pick a player in the top 10 because the coach is an old friend. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit with your narrative.
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said it before, and I'll say it again. Jeremy Lamb.
You got a steal "once in a lifetime" player in AD. the 10th pick in a "deep draft" should produce you a good bench player that is...Jeremy lamb. Oh damn, for some reason he's playing well. At least better than rivers is. Monty wanted to convert Rivers (a SG) into a PG. that's the dumbest thing ever. If a player doesn't have the vision, never showed the vision, they won't just develop it overnight.
Hindsight is always 20/20
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:29 pm to KG5989
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And yea I would rather have taken Lamb. Especially considering we already had a 2 guard in Gordon. I would have rather taken Lamb, Harkless, Henson and Terrence Jones over Rivers.
Did you say that then?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:37 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Did you say that then?
i don't think anyone wanted rivers. If anything it was Kendall Marshall who people wanted to take the point > rivers
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:37 pm to WindSurfer
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So now we are comparing Monty with a worse team
Chicago's roster isn't good either.
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to one of the best coaches in the NBA. Quite ridiculous.
...isn't that the point of all of this?...to get a better coach?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:40 pm to htran90
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i don't think anyone wanted rivers. If anything it was Kendall Marshall who people wanted to take the point > rivers
I think we all wanted Drummond to fall one more pick because he had so much more upside and fit so much better than anyone left at that point.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:41 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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More than 3.
why does Chicago's roster = 34-27, but Pelicans roster = 10 game losing streak?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:41 pm to WindSurfer
Monty also talked up Rivers by saying he wanted someone who wasn't afraid to shoot in the closing minutes. He wanted a closer. Rivers gets benched for Roberts when it counts. How's that working out?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:42 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Back before the draft I said I wanted Lamb, Harkless and T.Jones at the 10th pick.
I thought Lamb was the 2nd best shooter in the draft behind Beal. And thought Harkless had a lot of talent and potential, more so than Rivers. And T. Jones was a combo 3/4 that has ability and athleticism to play the 3, but also the physicality and build to play the 4. I thought all 3 of those guys had more potential and would be better than Rivers before the draft.
I didnt want Henson due to the similarities between he and AD. And before the draft everyone thought AD would be a PF and couldnt play C because of his weight. But it turns out he can play both PF and C.
I would always rather have a good 3 guard than a good 2 guard. Especially in recent years where the best players in the league are typically 3 guards.
And I didnt see the need for us to take a 2 guard back then. We didnt have a SF or a PG. Thought those were bigger position of need.
I thought Lamb was the 2nd best shooter in the draft behind Beal. And thought Harkless had a lot of talent and potential, more so than Rivers. And T. Jones was a combo 3/4 that has ability and athleticism to play the 3, but also the physicality and build to play the 4. I thought all 3 of those guys had more potential and would be better than Rivers before the draft.
I didnt want Henson due to the similarities between he and AD. And before the draft everyone thought AD would be a PF and couldnt play C because of his weight. But it turns out he can play both PF and C.
I would always rather have a good 3 guard than a good 2 guard. Especially in recent years where the best players in the league are typically 3 guards.
And I didnt see the need for us to take a 2 guard back then. We didnt have a SF or a PG. Thought those were bigger position of need.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:42 pm to drake20
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why does Chicago's roster = 34-27, but Pelicans roster = 10 game losing streak?
Balance and depth.
ETA - Also, we haven't had a 10 game losing streak.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:45 pm to WindSurfer
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Damn! If only we could of got a guy who averages 7.7 points, 1.2 assists, and 2.2 rebounds!!!!!!
9.5 PPG in 22 MPG on 44% shooting this season...14.2 PER
...WAY better than Rivers.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:47 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I think we all wanted Drummond to fall one more pick because he had so much more upside and fit so much better than anyone left at that point.
I meant given the options at the 10th pick after drummond was taken. I think we all knew it was going to be rivers unfortunately.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:50 pm to drake20
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9.5 PPG in 22 MPG on 44% shooting this season...14.2 PER
...WAY better than Rivers.
pretty much...
rivers' average is 6.3ppg, 1.6rpg, 1.9apg shooting 37.9/32.7/59.4
while lamb averages 42.6/34.4/87.1, less turnovers 0.6 vs. river's 1.1. More steals and blocks and less minutes.
if I wanted a 2 guard who couldn't shoot a free throw, I'd want rivers. But the game is to make free throws.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:50 pm to htran90
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i don't think anyone wanted rivers
This is revisionist history at it's finest. A ton of people wanted to draft AR at 10, especially with Lillard/Drummond/Ross gone.
People forget that Lamb didn't look that great in his 2nd season at UConn and was pencil thin at the time.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:53 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Balance and depth.
good coaching
...their roster sucks.
This post was edited on 3/6/14 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:54 pm to drake20
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good coaching
I'll agree that Thibs is a better coach than Monty, but I also think he is one of the best in the game. There isn't a Thibs available. There is First Round George and Avery Johnson.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:55 pm to ShamelessPel
rivers got drafted off one big time shot.
we just got EG on a fresh contract, why get a similar skill set player? Oh wait, we were 'converting him to a PG'. He never had that vision, even in college. I watched enough duke games to know he needed at least 1 more year. I also had enough duke friends that said he was going to be a colossal bust if he went into the NBA. Looks like they were right.
we just got EG on a fresh contract, why get a similar skill set player? Oh wait, we were 'converting him to a PG'. He never had that vision, even in college. I watched enough duke games to know he needed at least 1 more year. I also had enough duke friends that said he was going to be a colossal bust if he went into the NBA. Looks like they were right.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:56 pm to drake20
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9.5 PPG in 22 MPG on 44% shooting this season...14.2 PER
Rivers is 6.5 points in 19 minutes on 39% shooting 10.56 per. I fail to see the huge gap in which you are talking about.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 4:57 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I'll agree that Thibs is a better coach than Monty, but I also think he is one of the best in the game. There isn't a Thibs available. There is First Round George and Avery Johnson.
would you rather 1st round george
or
dumb expression monty
I want to ENJOY basketball. I want to be above .500. At this point, I just want to stop questioning and scratching my head when I watch basketball games. BBall isn't supposed to make me question things, you just watch it.
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