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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:46 pm to
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Noel is a 5. Davis is a 4. They pair better than two on-ball guards.


Right now Noel is a 5 with a 4's body. You're stick waiting a few years hoping he can fill out and be on the court at the same time as Davis.

Davis does everything Noel does except he can score. There's a reason Noel continued to fall while 2 centers were picked ahead of him.
Posted by The Future
Smallville, KS
Member since Oct 2009
22661 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:46 pm to
Noel/Davis would have brought excitement

Holiday and everyone is like oh, that's cool I guess.

Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:47 pm to
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We will be rebuilding again by the end of Jrue's deal


How is that? Major improvement at the pg spot. First year to second year improvement of Davis, who actually is a franchise player. An apparently excited to be here Gordon. You can find cheap guys at sf who can shoot and defend, and just about anything will be better than Aminu.

Crunch time lineup of Davis, Anderson, Gordon, Holiday, and whatever sf they get is a pretty good group. And these guys are young, so why would they be rebuilding?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:48 pm to
I agree with this. I didn't really want Noel, but Burke, CJ, or McLemore would all have been nice prices, cheaper, and we would still have space to continue the build.

Jrue doesn't fix our problems at 3, but Burke fixed our problems at 1.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:49 pm to
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Noel/Davis would have brought excitement Holiday and everyone is like oh, that's cool I guess.


Jrue/Davis will bring excitement. Now you actually have a point guard who can push the tempo and get Davis some transition buckets.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
17312 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
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Jrue doesn't fix our problems at 3, but Burke fixed our problems at 1.


Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
If we could add another impact FA I like it
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18879 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
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But you have to compare this trade, not just to Noel, but also Burke, CJ, and McLemore.


So you're pretty confident that Burke, CJ, or McLemore will be an All Star by their 3rd year in the league?
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
Burke couldn't do that?

With Burke, you still have next year's 1 and cap space. We could have added Marion who comes off the books and added another young piece at 13.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm
Posted by macatak911
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11078 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to
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Jrue doesn't fix our problems at 3, but Burke fixed our problems at 1.


Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
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Noel/Davis would have brought excitement

Holiday and everyone is like oh, that's cool I guess.


Only people who haven't watched him play and don't know anything about basketball would think this. Holiday is one of the most exciting fast break pg's in the league, and you pair him with Davis, and shooters like Anderson and Gordon. Some of you should watch more games before b!tching about stuff.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
7252 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
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I hate having allstars on my team. This sucks


Tards be tards. BTW, it will truly suck to have a proven All-Star have the ball late in the games.
Posted by cmlanier
Member since Mar 2013
120 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
Can we trade Dell Demps?
Posted by MrBlue105
chillin with the BWC - anaconda
Member since Apr 2013
6602 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:51 pm to
We'd have to wait years to have a good davis/noel.... FRICK all that. I want to be good ASAP always
Posted by simbo
Member since Jun 2011
1664 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to
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I agree with this. I didn't really want Noel, but Burke, CJ, or McLemore would all have been nice prices, cheaper, and we would still have space to continue the build. Jrue doesn't fix our problems at 3, but Burke fixed our problems at 1.


This guy gets it. You had a future allstar in Mclemore fall in your lap and you trade that and a lotto pick in a good 2014 draft for a good PG.

If you wanted a PG that bad, draft Burke, go get a FA SF and draft another good ball player next year. But we'll see.

Good luck.

Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25332 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to
My point is that Burke addresses the 1 while still giving us the ability to address the 3 spot later this year or next year. Adding Jrue limits our flexibility.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to
In 3-4 years you'll have the same pieces and only Davis will be majorly improved.

The rest are pretty much what they are.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
54195 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm to
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So you're pretty confident that Burke, CJ, or McLemore will be an All Star by their 3rd year in the league?

Mclemore has a shot, the others I don't see
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Jrue doesn't fix our problems at 3, but Burke fixed our problems at 1.


Burke fixes nothing. Jrue is an all star, Burke is more likely to be a fringe starter.

Holiday was the best PG to come out of this draft.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:53 pm to
Some scouts aren't even convinced Burke is a legit starter. More of a third guard type. I think he will be good, and Utah is a good place for him, but Holiday is a proven guy.
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