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Why do non-English speaking artists not make it "global"?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:11 am
Just always a question I've wondered to myself and would like to hear other opinions on the matter.
American, British, Australian, and numerous English-speaking musicians/acts/performers sellout arenas across the globe. From the classic rock bands of Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Zeppelin, KISS, etc.) to the Lady GaGas and Madonnas of the world.
I know there are a few non-English songs that will make it big in the U.S. and abroad (ie 99 luftballons / Gangnam Style / Macarena) but when have you ever seen a Japanese, Brazilian, or Italian band or performer have worldwide tours to audiences that don't primarily speak their language? Let alone have legit staying power like some of those acts I listed above.
Is it simply the quality of the music regardless of what genre it is? Is it because English is the choice 2nd language for a lot of people across the globe? Can't speak for the rest of the world but is the U.S. too Anglicised to ever really support sometime of long sustaining tour?
and on a side note I put global in quotations because I'm aware that just because someone isn't big here doesn't mean they aren't big elsewhere but I think for an act to be globally huge generally means they are decently supported here.
American, British, Australian, and numerous English-speaking musicians/acts/performers sellout arenas across the globe. From the classic rock bands of Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Zeppelin, KISS, etc.) to the Lady GaGas and Madonnas of the world.
I know there are a few non-English songs that will make it big in the U.S. and abroad (ie 99 luftballons / Gangnam Style / Macarena) but when have you ever seen a Japanese, Brazilian, or Italian band or performer have worldwide tours to audiences that don't primarily speak their language? Let alone have legit staying power like some of those acts I listed above.
Is it simply the quality of the music regardless of what genre it is? Is it because English is the choice 2nd language for a lot of people across the globe? Can't speak for the rest of the world but is the U.S. too Anglicised to ever really support sometime of long sustaining tour?
and on a side note I put global in quotations because I'm aware that just because someone isn't big here doesn't mean they aren't big elsewhere but I think for an act to be globally huge generally means they are decently supported here.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 12:35 pm
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:48 am to theGarnetWay
The main market for the music industry is in English speaking countries.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:04 pm to theGarnetWay
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Just always a question I've wondered to myself and would like to hear other opinions on the matter.
American, British, Australian, and numerous English-speaking musicians/acts/performers sellout arenas across the globe. From the classic rock bands of Iron Maiden, AC/DC, Zeppelin, KISS, etc.) to the Lady GaGas and Madonnas of the world.
I know there are a few non-English songs that will make it big in the U.S. and abroad (ie 99 luftballons / Gangnam Style / Macarena) but when have you ever seen a Japanese, Brazilian, or Italian band or performer have worldwide tours to audiences that don't primarily speak their language? Let alone have legit staying power like some of those acts I listed above.
Is it simply the quality of the music regardless of what genre it is? Is it because English is the choice 2nd language for a lot of people across the globe? Can't speak for the rest of the world but is the U.S. too Anglicised to ever really support sometime of long sustaining tour?
and on a side note I put global in quotations because I'm aware that just because someone isn't big here doesn't mean they aren't big elsewhere but I think for an act to be globally huge generally means they are decently supported here
What is notable is that a band like Phoenix (they are French) chooses to write their songs in English.
I wonder French people get pissed off about this? They have serious little dick syndrome about their language. It bugs them that English and not French became the de facto world language. Is there a Frenchmen somewhere cursing the band Phoenix while I write this sentence?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:06 pm to bobbyray21
Also, fwiw, in Europe they play American pop music as like their staple music.
Okay, I shouldn't say all of Europe. But this was the case all over Germany. You either heard electronic music, or American pop.
Okay, I shouldn't say all of Europe. But this was the case all over Germany. You either heard electronic music, or American pop.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:29 pm to bobbyray21
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But this was the case all over Germany
Speaking of which and going with your example the German band the Scorpions who uses English to write their music.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:29 pm to bobbyray21
English is the world's most widely used language. It should be as simple as that, right?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:57 pm to SUB
Rammstein just headlined a US arena tour earlier this year. All of their songs are in German.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:21 pm to Brosef Stalin
English is by far the most expressive language in the world. One of the reasons for the difficulty in learning English is that there are SO many words ripped from so many other languages. There can be a dozen words that generally mean the same thing, but have a slightly different connotation. Because of this, you are afforded a lot of leeway in use of rhyme and expression. That is why English is so popular for lyrics and prose.
Now, there are definitely non-English speaking bands (Sigur Ros and Bjork use Icelandic quite often). You are correct that most use English, though. As others have stated, it has the widest possible audience by a significant margin.
Now, there are definitely non-English speaking bands (Sigur Ros and Bjork use Icelandic quite often). You are correct that most use English, though. As others have stated, it has the widest possible audience by a significant margin.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:23 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Rammstein just headlined a US arena tour earlier this year. All of their songs are in German.
MOST are in German. They have recorded a few English versions of songs and they illustrated perfectly why Rammstein needs to stick to German.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:28 pm to Jester
The English version of Du Hast sounds awful. They have a song in Spanish that's actually pretty cool.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 5:11 pm to theGarnetWay
I've always wondered that myself. I was in Brussels and heard REM - The End of the World as we Know It (it was 12/31/99, no less) on the radio in English, after the song was over, the DJ comes on and starts speaking French.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:14 pm to Jester
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English is by far the most expressive language in the world.
This is rotundly false.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 10:30 pm to Dandy Lion
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This is rotundly false.
Do explain, professor.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 11:00 pm to Jester
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There can be a dozen words that generally mean the same thing, but have a slightly different connotation.
This exists in many languages.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:07 am to Dandy Lion
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This exists in many languages.
English is generally accepted to be the most versatile of all the languages.
I've heard this from various people smarter than myself.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:31 am to bobbyray21
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This exists in many languages.
Okay, that in no way disqualifies my previous statement.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 8:35 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:33 am to Jester
You declared English to be the most expressive, and based it upon myriad ways of expressing the same idea, each having it's own slightly differentiating connotation (your words).
I said other languages also have this capability. You agreed.
No, you already disqualified your statement.
I said other languages also have this capability. You agreed.
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that in no way disqualifies my previous statement.
No, you already disqualified your statement.
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Okay,
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