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When Even the Kiddies (Musically Inclined of Course) Started Listening

Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:58 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:58 pm

Already the world´s best band, they were no doubt, the world´s biggest band, after this came out.

Brown Sugar pushed them over the mainstream edge.

What album moved other bands into general social consciousness or knowing?

I know alot are going to respond that the choice of a certain song for a TV commercial is what did it, that´s OK. Let´s have the band and album.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 7:53 pm to
not sure what you're asking?

Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:11 pm to
A band could have critical acclaim, and a major status, be it commercially (sales) or ´aura´,which is probably what the Stones had up until this point (from the general public´s point of view).

Brown Sugar, from this album, blew the doors off, and everybody and their mother, loved the Stones, as it bridged the gap between those ´in the know´and the ´sheep´.

BTW The Rolling Stones have made nearly a billion off the sheep.

Then again, the fricking money grubbers don´t know when to leave well enough alone. Typical limeys.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 8:13 pm
Posted by T1gerWonder
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:22 pm to
The Beatles-"Sgt pepper's lonely heart club band"

Am I doing it right?
Posted by hobotiger
Asbury Park, NJ
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:27 pm to
I'll throw U2's Joshua Tree out there, I was always a fan but that album blew everything wide open for them
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

"Sgt pepper's lonely heart club band"

quote:

Am I doing it right?

Are you saying the Beatles weren´t universally listened to, or a household name, until this album?
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:30 pm to
REM... I'll say it started with Document, but all doubt was removed by Out of Time
Posted by T1gerWonder
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Are you saying the Beatles weren´t universally listened to, or a household name, until this album?

If that's what you are asking, then obviously I'm not doing it right
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:55 pm to
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Document,
Good call.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:59 pm to
I have no idea what you're talking about

The Stones were already superstars before Sticky Fingers

While they were no longer playing second fiddle to the Beatles, you can make a case that their impact was sill a bit blunted, due to the emergence of Led Zeppelin, who sold even more records -- though Zep's cultural impact, outside of their audience, was minimal. Unlike the Beatles.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

I have no idea what you're talking about
English, it seems some don´t speak it. I was very careful about explaining what I was talking about.

quote:

The Stones were already superstars before Sticky Fingers

Yes, they were. But Honky Tonk Woman came out only days before Brown Sugar in the US, and families knew nothing of the Stones´music, only the Stones.

Capito?

ETA I guess I´m having to explain ´mainstream´. My bad, but then again, I think the word is obvious.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

But Honky Tonk Woman came out only days before Brown Sugar in the US

?

Honky Tonk Women came out in 1969. Brown Sugar was released in 1971.

quote:

families knew nothing of the Stones´music, only the Stones

Non-rock listeners knew no more about the Stones' music after Sticky Fingers than before -- in fact probably less, since they were less likely to be exposed to it; rock pretty much disappeared from prime time TV in the 1970s. The Ed Sullivan Show was cancelled around the time Sticky Fingers came out. The days of the family gathered around the TV set watching a comedian, a dog act, a juggler, and the latest rock band had ended. Rock was pretty much banished to "fringe time" -- weekend late night or Saturday afternoon (American Bandstand). One reason for Zep's limited cultural impact.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:21 pm to
I was in the States at this time, and they were very, very close in time, IMO. You are the expert, so my bad. If I´m not mistaken Honky Tonk Women didn´t even belong to an album here, except maybe a Decca recompilation for the US market.

Anyway, again, you are the expert, I´m pulling from potentially flawed memory.

Uh, Brown Sugar was a big deal on the radio, as were the Doors with Light My Fire, and CCR. Again, I may be glomming together my time here at that age, but I really don´t think so.

They were big.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:29 pm to
Yes, the Stones were rock superstars and Brown Sugar was a #1 hit single, but not everyone listened to top 40 radio. There was the country audience, the MOR-easy listening audience, the talk radio audience, and people who didn't listen to radio at all.

And since you were unlikely to hear the Stones unless you listened to top 40 or rock-album radio, you were unlikely to hear them at all, since as I pointed out, rock music essentially disappeared from prime time TV after the cancellation of Ed Sullivan.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:35 pm to
Kaf, I guess I had the luck of having parents who subjected me to top 40. The rest of formats, I cannot comment upon.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by dexy82
Madison, WI
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:43 pm to
Well, It's a tough one, but I'll say Queen.

In a round about way, they were super successful in the 70's and eighties, but all forgotten on the charts until Wayne's World, and then, everybody and their grandma-young and old knew Queen once again-
that movie created such an impact for a new generation of Queen listeners..

I also add that ABBA became even more successful during recent times (woman eat that shite up these days), then when they flirted with the charts in the late 70's


nevermind, that's not what your asking, that's more of a rediscovery
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

but not everyone listened to top 40 radio


A lot of cars only had AM radio back in the day, but at home, back in 1971, there were still several underground stations that were great on FM radio. Then, within a few years, FM became commercialized when advertisers realized they had a new market ($$), and a great time period ended...
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Well, It's a tough one, but I'll say Queen.

Good call. Bohemian Rhapsody was da shizen. Da abosulute shizen. They were respected, and well known, but not mainstream, until this song.

This is what I was getting at.


There are alot more, but this is a PRIME example.
Posted by hobotiger
Asbury Park, NJ
Member since Nov 2007
5438 posts
Posted on 12/28/12 at 10:35 pm to
Queen wasn't mainstream? When Bohemian Rhapsody first came out it was all over the radio, and the promotional video was way ahead of its time.

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