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re: When bands go all political on their fans and music?

Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:58 am to
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The corporate and government powers want you to be apolitical. They don't want you to invoke political and social ideals. It's a threat to the order, which clearly benefits the people on top of it. The "shut up and sing" crowd is making an explicit political argument, and that is that we shouldn't be political. The very foundation of our democracy is that every citizen should be engaged in the body politic, yet we explicitly want our entertainment to simply pacify us.



Don't know if I agree with this. Me saying "shut up and sing" is not intended to limit your rights to speak freely in a broad sense.

I'm saying -- You're here doing what you love, in front of thousands of people, and making tons of money, because of music. We, the crowd/audience, are the ones who helped put you there. You, the artist, are probably no better than your average fan when it comes to knowledge of politics, world events or other controversial topics. So don't disrespect our loyalty by using the pulpit given to you for art to go on political rants, which are often fairly banal and poorly reasoned.

In truth, I don't care if someone slips in a passing political statement in a concert, and obviously if you're upset because of what the music stands for, you shouldn't go to the concert.

But don't switcheroo on your audience. Next time I take a meeting with a new client who came to me because I'm good at what I do, I'm gonna go "well now that I've got you here for a consultation, let me tell you about how much I hate the current administration." Of course, they can do that, but there is nothing wrong with fans telling them to frick off in response.
Posted by Pettifogger
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79322 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:05 am to
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Is that true?



I'm obviously just making up numbers, so who really knows. But of the ones I like, the ones I strongly suspect/know have some lefty leanings:

DBT
REK
Todd Snider
James McMurtry
Ryan Bingham
Reckless Kelly/M&tM

Ones I suspect probably lean a little left: Isbell, Sturgill, Cody Canada/CCR, maybe TT.

The further you go toward Americana/folk the more liberal it gets. Once you hit indie folk it's gotta be close to 100%.

I don't know about Jason Boland and folks like that.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81735 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 11:18 am to
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I'm saying -- You're here doing what you love, in front of thousands of people, and making tons of money, because of music. We, the crowd/audience, are the ones who helped put you there. You, the artist, are probably no better than your average fan when it comes to knowledge of politics, world events or other controversial topics. So don't disrespect our loyalty by using the pulpit given to you for art to go on political rants, which are often fairly banal and poorly reasoned.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:57 pm to
metallica napster rant ftw
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 2:07 pm to
Toby Keith wants to put a boot in Muslim asses the American way.
Posted by UPT
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Posted on 10/19/15 at 7:19 pm to
NOFX made The Decline, and The War On Errorism.
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