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re: Trying to get into the Grateful Dead
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:46 am to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:46 am to DyeHardDylan
Throw a dart at a calendar from 1974, 1977 or 1978 and listen to the show on whatever date it lands on. Those are probably the most accessible years to start on, specifically the consistently consistent 77 shows.
For 74, one of my favorites is 2.24.74 from San Francisco. Second set has a 30 minute Dark Star right into Morning Dew, Sugar Mags > Not Fade Away > GDTRFB > Not Fade Away. Bobby's voice starts cracking at the end of NFA and it's bad arse.
For 74, one of my favorites is 2.24.74 from San Francisco. Second set has a 30 minute Dark Star right into Morning Dew, Sugar Mags > Not Fade Away > GDTRFB > Not Fade Away. Bobby's voice starts cracking at the end of NFA and it's bad arse.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:52 am to WG_Dawg
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Is it the same for concerts for music lovers? Things like the quotes just blow me away and I can barely wrap my head around it. Like...not only just remembered those specific dates, but I mean what was it about THOSE 2 shows in particular that would separate them from any other GD show?
May 8, 1977 is generally accepted as the best GD show ever. May 1977 is itself one of their best periods of playing, and 5.8 was the beginning and peak (they also played ridiculously good shows in St. Paul, Chicago, St. Louis and Tuscaloosa which were released in a box set).
Aside from the quality of playing, the setlist is as good as it gets. Dancin, Take a Step Back, Scarlet > Fire, Estimated, St. Stephen > Not Fade Away > St. Stephen, Morning Dew, Saturday Night.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:56 am to WG_Dawg
Honestly I'm not really into specific dates except for a handful of the dead's. I was really never that way about specfic dates until XM dead channel and they started airing live shows and I could see the dates. Back when I started listening to them it was rare to find a bootleg that had any great quality to them. Copy of a cassette to a cassette copied to a cassette and so on. I still have a handful of cassette bootlegs but they're had to listen to through that low hiss. The good stuff I had were the live issued albums. Steal Your Face, Europe '72, Dead Set. Now I can just youtube live shows and the quality is pretty nice.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:06 am to Rickety Cricket
That Cornell show is the first Dead show I ever listened to. My buddy burned a cd of it for me...no wonder I really got into them after listening to that show.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:08 am to DyeHardDylan
Oldest to Newest:
2.22.69
4.29.71
8.27.72
11.17.73
5.8.77
12.31.78
3.21.81
7.17.89
3.29.90
2.22.69
4.29.71
8.27.72
11.17.73
5.8.77
12.31.78
3.21.81
7.17.89
3.29.90
Posted on 8/16/16 at 5:23 pm to DyeHardDylan
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What should I start with?
American Beauty. Some wonderful songs - and even a shoutout to Baton Rouge!
Posted on 8/16/16 at 6:21 pm to CaptainPanic
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Oldest to Newest:
2.22.69
4.29.71
8.27.72
11.17.73
5.8.77
12.31.78
3.21.81
7.17.89
3.29.90
4-29-71 is one of my favorite live recordings of any band anytime.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:07 pm to DyeHardDylan
Start with The Arista Years compilation.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 7:26 am to DyeHardDylan
Posted on 8/17/16 at 10:35 am to Marco Esquandolas
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Go pick up/download "Without a Net" and a couple of the "Dick's Picks"
this is good advise.
Europe 72 is a good official release and representative of their sound at that time.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 1:39 pm to DyeHardDylan
Terrapin Station studio album
:orko:
:orko:
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:10 pm to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 8/17/16 at 4:02 pm to DyeHardDylan
When I started (long ago) Reckoning was my favorite and I still like it a lot. It's an acoustic set with a bluegrass influence. No long jams which is probably good for an entry album.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 4:08 pm to Dave England
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The entire show from 5-8-77
great Dancin' In The Streets if i recall correctly
Posted on 8/18/16 at 8:56 am to DyeHardDylan
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What should I start with?
quitting
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:18 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Is it the same for concerts for music lovers? Things like the quotes just blow me away and I can barely wrap my head around it. Like...not only just remembered those specific dates, but I mean what was it about THOSE 2 shows in particular that would separate them from any other GD show?
Before the days of internet and CDs Grateful Dead fans were dependent on a network of tapers that recorded shows and then traded them for others, similar to trading baseball cards. But of course you didn't lose your original copy.
Concert tapes were usually recorded by mics in an audience. Other times bootleg copies of soundboard patches would surface. They were highly desirable, but even then the sound could be rough.
The Betty Boards surfaced in the 80s (I think) and they were pristine soundboard copies of a handful of shows from the late 70s, arguably one of their most creative live eras. So they spread like wildfire throughout the community. You could purchase them as bootlegs in record and CD stores that offered them.
5/8/77 was one of the best sounding and best played of those Betty Boards. So was it the greatest show ever? no. However, the availability of the great playing and sounding show made it many people's favorites. Same with the next night 5/9/77 and several others. So it enjoys the well-deserved reputation of "best ever." it was also many people's first time hearing them outside of what was commercially available.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:22 pm to DyeHardDylan
if the dead is too crazy for you, you might try some Jerry Garcia Band. It really highlights Jerry's playing outside of the crazy cosmic stuff he did with the dead. lots of great blues.
Don't sleep on the stuff he did with Merle Saunders too. good stuff
Don't sleep on the stuff he did with Merle Saunders too. good stuff
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