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Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:33 pm to PiscesTiger
Not sure I'd put VDOP in the thrash category, but it's certainly one if my favorite albums of all times.
On second thought, I don't know if I'd classify Seasons in the Abyss as thrash either. Maybe now I'm just being a snob (which I hate). Haha
On second thought, I don't know if I'd classify Seasons in the Abyss as thrash either. Maybe now I'm just being a snob (which I hate). Haha
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:04 pm to saint amant steve
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-Suicidal Tendencies' crossover How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today
One of my all time favorites.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:10 pm to saint amant steve
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Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence
Absolutely melts face. Loving it.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:16 pm to TigeRoots
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:18 pm to Sayre
I remember I bought Peace Sells and Reign In Blood both the same day. I was a huge Metallica fan, but hadn't been blown away by the other thrash I'd been exposed too, which was mainly Exodus.
Reign In Blood flat out scared me. The opening to Angel Of Death still gives me goose bumps.
But Peace Sells was just one great song after the next. I can remember laughing my arse off because the guitars were so being played so fast on Bad Omen. It's hard for me to describe just how insane and different that music sounded like back then, especially to some 17 year old kid from Clinton/Zachary, which were not exactly metal hot beds. There were only two other kids in my whole school who were into that kind of music. Even when I went to college, there was no one I met at LSU that was into that kind of stuff. Hell, there were more people in Lafayette into thrash than in the Baton Rouge area.
And how in the hell has no one mentioned S.O.D. yet? That shite was the fricking BOMB. I remember wearing out cassette after cassette of Speak English Or Die.
Reign In Blood flat out scared me. The opening to Angel Of Death still gives me goose bumps.
But Peace Sells was just one great song after the next. I can remember laughing my arse off because the guitars were so being played so fast on Bad Omen. It's hard for me to describe just how insane and different that music sounded like back then, especially to some 17 year old kid from Clinton/Zachary, which were not exactly metal hot beds. There were only two other kids in my whole school who were into that kind of music. Even when I went to college, there was no one I met at LSU that was into that kind of stuff. Hell, there were more people in Lafayette into thrash than in the Baton Rouge area.
And how in the hell has no one mentioned S.O.D. yet? That shite was the fricking BOMB. I remember wearing out cassette after cassette of Speak English Or Die.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:26 pm to TigeRoots
Pantera has elements of thrash for sure. Listening to RISE and Psycho Holiday affirm that.
I'd definitely put Slayer in there. Any album up until late 90's.
* Honorable mention to a death metal Christian band that also thrashes -- Mortification. Check 'em:
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I'd definitely put Slayer in there. Any album up until late 90's.
* Honorable mention to a death metal Christian band that also thrashes -- Mortification. Check 'em:
LINK
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:05 pm to Sayre
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There were only two other kids in my whole school who were into that kind of music. Even when I went to college, there was no one I met at LSU that was into that kind of stuff. Hell, there were more people in Lafayette into thrash than in the Baton Rouge area.
Sounds eerily familiar. It's depressing actually. People suck.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 6:16 pm to PiscesTiger
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Pantera has elements of thrash for sure. Listening to RISE and Psycho Holiday affirm that.
I'm with you on that. CFH is mostly thrash IMO.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 7:41 pm to TigeRoots
Boy, let me dig back into my teenage years...so many thrash albums to pick from so I'll just pick the ones that stayed in my cassette player the most.
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - South of Heaven/Reign in Blood (tie, to close to call)
Megadeth - Peace Sells
Testament - The New Order
Death Angel - The Ultra Violence
Bonus - Rigor Mortis
Bought that when I saw the cover. I just knew with artwork that kick arse there had to be some headbangin' tunes on there. Boy was I right!
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - South of Heaven/Reign in Blood (tie, to close to call)
Megadeth - Peace Sells
Testament - The New Order
Death Angel - The Ultra Violence
Bonus - Rigor Mortis
Bought that when I saw the cover. I just knew with artwork that kick arse there had to be some headbangin' tunes on there. Boy was I right!
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:41 am to TigeRoots
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Not sure I'd put VDOP in the thrash category, but it's certainly one if my favorite albums of all times.
I don't know anyone who classifies Vulgar Display of Power as a thrash record. It's groove/post-thrash all the way.
Cowboys From Hell, on the other hand, could certainly bear the thrash label.
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On second thought, I don't know if I'd classify Seasons in the Abyss as thrash either.
Are you sure about that? "War Ensemble", "Hallowed Point", "Spirit in Black", etc., makes this an obvious thrash record with some tempo shifts thrown in here and there.
What else would you classify it as?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:43 am to PiscesTiger
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PiscesTiger
Just because a couple of websites lists Vulgar Display of Power on some list entitled "Best Thrash Albums", does not make it a thrash record.
Can you honestly tell me based on the actual sound of the album (e.g. guitar riffs, tempo, rhythm, drum work, vocal delivery, etc.) that you are listening to a thrash record when that album is being played?
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Thrash metal (or simply thrash) is a style of Metal music that originated in the United States in 1980-1981 under the heavy influence of British bands such as Venom and Motörhead and in reaction to another style of American rock / metal music that arose at the time, Glam Metal. Bands like Metallica, Slayer and Exodus took the roughest aspects of the NWOBHM sound and focused on writing fast and energetic songs with riffs which focused more on rhythmic than melodic qualities and laid out simple melodies over palm-muted pedal-point notes, so-called skank beats, derived from Hardcore Punk, where a straight bass/snare beat in 4/4 is played as fast as possible, shred guitar solos, shouted, often unmelodic vocals, and songwriting which, at its most extreme, was simply aimed at cramming as many riffs as possible in the span of a few minutes. Lyrics dealt with themes such as war, violence, satanism and Cold War paranoia while oftentimes including sociopolitical commentary, as well as more lighthearted topics like skating, partying and getting drunk. The first full-length studio-produced thrash metal albums were Metallica's Kill 'Em All and Slayer's Show No Mercy, both released in 1983.
As the 1980s progressed, hardcore punk bands like D.R.I. and Suicidal Tendencies took a lot of influence from the American thrash metal scene and refined their chaotic styles into what is commonly referred to as Crossover Thrash. Such influence worked both ways, as exemplified by Anthrax side project S.O.D., whose 1985 album Speak English or Die became a staple of this hardcore-influenced offshoot of thrash.
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Groove metal is a subgenre of metal music that dates back to the late 1980s, with origins primarily focused in the United States and Brazil. The music itself is generally comprised of mid-tempo riffs similar to those found in Thrash Metal, with a tendency to focus more on groovy syncopation and heaviness than outright speed. The result is generally a combination of influences from original Thrash Metal, with overtones of Heavy Metal and undertones of Hardcore Punk. Notable acts include Pantera, Machine Head, Sepultura and White Zombie.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/24/15 at 8:52 am to Sayre
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Reign In Blood flat out scared me. The opening to Angel Of Death still gives me goose bumps.
For the longest time I found it hard to get into Slayer because of the "satanic" stigma which has accompanied them throughout their career. What makes Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax so enjoyable is their lack of reliance on controversial or taboo subject matter. They didn't have to write about evil or dark shite to get people to listen to them.
For the record, I'm not saying that Slayer doesn't have the musical chops of those other bands.
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There were only two other kids in my whole school who were into that kind of music. Even when I went to college, there was no one I met at LSU that was into that kind of stuff. Hell, there were more people in Lafayette into thrash than in the Baton Rouge area.
I'm in my mid-20s and I have still yet to find a permanent concert buddy who enjoys old school and extreme metal as much as I do. The few people I've met that enjoy metal are into metalcore and most of the commercial metal (e.g. 5FDP).
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And how in the hell has no one mentioned S.O.D. yet? That shite was the fricking BOMB. I remember wearing out cassette after cassette of Speak English Or Die.
It is so damn hard to obtain a copy of that album. I really wish they wouldn't have waited until the late '90s to make a second record.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:40 am to saint amant steve
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What else would you classify it as?
Not trying to split hairs, but I just don't get the uptempo thrash feeling as a whole with the album. Thrash elements for sure. To each his own, just my opinion.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:51 am to TigeRoots
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To each his own, just my opinion.
Fair enough. Would you say it's more of a thrash record than Metallica and Countdown to Extinction?
Posted on 6/24/15 at 11:51 am to Sayre
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Suicidal Tendencies' crossover How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today
One of my all time favorites.
ST rocks! Their debut record was great too, and must not be forgotten
Posted on 6/24/15 at 12:11 pm to Midget Death Squad
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ST rocks! Their debut record was great too, and must not be forgotten
Hell yeah. I still throw that one in and Join the army.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:06 pm to saint amant steve
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Just because a couple of websites lists Vulgar Display of Power on some list entitled "Best Thrash Albums", does not make it a thrash record.
I knew you'd show. You're the whole reason I listed Pantera as thrash. I knew you'd show up and argue and here you are. A couple of websites?
"While being a heavy metal band, Pantera's style was frequenting between groove metal, thrash metal and alternative metal, and their early material has been described as glam metal."
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Can you honestly tell me based on the actual sound of the album (e.g. guitar riffs, tempo, rhythm, drum work, vocal delivery, etc.) that you are listening to a thrash record when that album is being played?
Yes, I can. I agree, not all elements are in every song, but hell yeah it's a thrash record and a power groove metal record all in one. For frick's sakes -- IT's A LOT of shite.
This post was edited on 6/24/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:11 pm to saint amant steve
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m in my mid-20s
And I was at metal concerts before you came out alive. Yes, you study the craft and know it well. For you to be so young and know this much about metal is even a tad scary, isn't it? But please, stop being such a wormy cock.
Posted on 6/24/15 at 2:24 pm to Midget Death Squad
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ST rocks! Their debut record was great too, and must not be forgotten
Unfortunately, the production quality is pitiful. It's really a shame how many bands have been overlooked due to lackluster recording quality.
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