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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:00 am to
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 12:00 am to
Domino
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I also the whole We Can't Dance album is underrated. Great hits but even the non single releases were terrific.
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:02 am to
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I honestly don't think I could name one Genesis song under Peter Gabriel.


Home By the Sea -- such an awesome tune. Heavy and powerful in its own way.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:15 am to
Very underrated pre-1976. After that highly overrated.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:23 am to
I absolutely agree. Selling England by the Pound is a brilliant album, with everyone in the band at their creative and technical peak. That album was ahead of it's time and can be compared with some of the stuff Pink Floyd was doing at that same time.
Posted by TreeDawg
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:26 pm to
Tony Banks

Rutherford never needed to be a guitar hero. Sonically, Banks was the meat & potatoes of their sound. And I love some of the post-Gabriel era. Listen to Collin's singing and playing on "Genesis". I'd agree with that album being the portence to a more mainstream sound, but it's a great record.
Posted by saint amant steve
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 2:51 pm to
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Underrated band.


Not really. They're pretty much heralded as being the definitive prog rock band, aside from Pink Floyd.

Honestly, I kind of hate Peter Gabriel.
Posted by ALT F4
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 3:47 pm to
I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:39 pm to
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Very underrated pre-1976. After that highly overrated.



Everyone tries to be too edgy and hip on this board. I would say just the opposite. Early eighties Genesis/solo Phil Collins was genius. But to each his own.

Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:27 am to
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Rutherford never needed to be a guitar hero. Sonically, Banks was the meat & potatoes of their sound.


Well, MR was the original Bass player and when Steve Hackett left, the band's sound really changed.......Hackett was the man!!!


Steve Hackett

This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:26 am to
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Everyone tries to be too edgy and hip on this board.

Not trying to be edgy. Just calling it like I see it.

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Early eighties Genesis/solo Phil Collins was genius.

Maybe I'm missing something. Please point out some genius from this era. Phil was a great drummer but he sang more and played less drums as time went on. Tony was a spectacular keyboardist but the songs featured less and less instrumentalism (possibly not a word).
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:28 am to
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when Steve Hackett left, the band's sound really changed

Exactly. The band survived the loss of Gabriel and in some ways it helped them. But when Hackett left, they became a different band.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:23 pm to
yea Phil Collins went pop, to sell vinyl and make millions.. which he could do.

a lot of people don't know what a really good percussionist Collins was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAPEEW-OUA


his composition work was evident on Brand X also, few musicians can actually boast the amount of creative work Phil Collins produced.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXamrqip4tA
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:18 am to
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a lot of people don't know what a really good percussionist Collins was


I do, one of the best of any genre. His live stuff teamed with Chester Thompson was phenomenal (which I witnessed 3 times).
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