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re: Serious Taylor Swift question

Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:06 pm to
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average looking talentless ho
Thanks for the positive input, boomer.

Average looking? lol

Talentless? You might not like the output of her talents, but come on.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69244 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:07 pm to
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The slobs listening to popular radio music couldn’t care less or even recognize the the differences between a digital and analog recording.


I've actually observed this phenomenon a lot. They don't realize they do, but they do. It's like when a soda you like changes sweeteners without announcing it on the packaging. It still tastes pretty much the same, but you can tell something is off even if you can't put your finger on what it is. That's the reality with the switch from music that wasn't on a grid to music that is on a grid.

People notice something is different, but they don't know what it is. Their perception of one verses the other is different depending on which one they mostly grew up listening to.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38354 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:10 pm to
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her father, a hedgefund manager,
Not a "hedgefund" manager.

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but she had full major label support behind her before she'd recorded her first song. So many folks have to toil in obscurity for 5 to 10 years before they can get any industry backing or even attention.

She had it from age 15 right at the last period in time when there was a semblance of a mono culture, allowing her to become one of the last super stars before social media balkanized music audiences to such an extent that achieving true mass appeal became extremely difficult.
The rest of this is pretty true. They've tried to spin it as rags to riches, but the dad made about as deliberate a gambit for her to have this career as was possible to be made.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62339 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:40 pm to
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When Taylor was a teen, her father, a hedgefund manager, bought a large stake in Big Machine Records


He wasn’t a hedge fund manager, and it wasn’t that large of a stake, at least as far as a monetary amount.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12777 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:54 pm to
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People notice something is different, but they don't know what it is. Their perception of one verses the other is different depending on which one they mostly grew up listening to.


But this isn’t causing people to like or dislike Swifts music. Every genre of music has been recorded digitally for decades. And prior to that there was drum and synth programming along with drum triggers and pads. Drum machines and programmed drums have been used for over 50 years at this point.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69244 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:30 pm to
Older folks don’t like Swift’s music (or any other pop music of the last 20 years) because it sounds boring, sterile, and bland to them. It sounds that way due to the lack of tempo and pitch variances which those older listeners were accustomed to in the music recorded during their youth.

Younger folks don’t dislike it the same way because they don’t notice anything missing at all as they’re accustomed to music always having perfect pitch and tempo. When they hear older songs, they’re often turned off because it sounds “cheap”. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13414 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:00 pm to
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it sounds boring, sterile, and bland


And therefore unworthy of discussion on a music board.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12777 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 2:13 am to
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Older folks don’t like Swift’s music (or any other pop music of the last 20 years) because it sounds boring, sterile, and bland to them. It sounds that way due to the lack of tempo and pitch variances which those older listeners were accustomed to in the music recorded during their youth.



That’s a blanket statement, a complete assumption, and completely false.

I think Taylor Swift is mediocre in almost every way, but it’s not because of digital recording methods lol. At the same time I love artists like Lady Gaga that use the exact same production programs and techniques.

“Older folks(people with discerning tastes, age has nothing to do with it) don’t like Swift because she just isn’t very interesting to listen to. Has nothing to do with digital quantization.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62339 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:33 am to
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And therefore unworthy of discussion on a music board.


It’s still music.

Posted by carrguitar
Member since Oct 2014
946 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:45 am to
So many bad takes and continual moving of the goal posts in here....

"Swift's songs aren't catchy" - no, you just like Frank Zappa-style weird stuff over pop music..and that's ok...enjoy what you like. But other people liking something you don't doesn't equate to them being wrong.

"Swift doesn't write her own songs" - she was winning songwriting awards in her teens

"well ok, maybe she writes her own...but she can't write for anyone else" - plenty to choose from, but "Better Man" recorded by Little Big Town may be among the best

"well....I just don't like her...she's ugly and a hoe" - ok pops, thanks for proving you have no actual argument
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 2:58 pm
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