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re: Pink Floyd's "The Wall" turned 35 on November 30th

Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:36 pm to
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I'm talking about albums. And The wall is far and away the better album.


No.

Numbers don't lie.

Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:38 pm to
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Numbers don't lie.


like album sales?
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:39 pm to
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it represents everything that sucks about prog/concept album music


Genesis - Invisible Touch
Yes - 90125
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:39 pm to
What is that
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:40 pm to
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like album sales?



Like aggregated ratings.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:41 pm to
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What is that


A dummy-proof aggregated list I've meticulously kept throughout the years.
Posted by NeverToYield
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:41 pm to
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Like aggregated ratings.


ratings from fricking who?

Teh wall has far, far outsold the other albums you mentioned, which I would think would be a better "numbers don't lie" indicator than whatever bcs type rating formula you've dug up.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Teh wall has far, far outsold the other albums you mentioned, which I would think would be a better "numbers don't lie" indicator than whatever bcs type rating formula you've dug up.


FWIW, Dark Side of the Moon is the best selling Pink Floyd album.

Even though record sales /=/ record quality
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:46 pm to
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Teh wall has far, far outsold the other albums you mentioned, which I would think would be a better "numbers don't lie" indicator

Not really...The Eagles Greatest Hits is one of the most sold albums of all time and it sucks cock
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:50 pm to
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FWIW, Dark Side of the Moon is the best selling Pink Floyd album.


duh doy

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Even though record sales /=/ record quality


except it kinda does
Posted by NeverToYield
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:54 pm to
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FWIW, Dark Side of the Moon is the best selling Pink Floyd album.


yeah no shite. The "other albums" I was referring to are AHM, meddle, and ummagumma that you said were all better than the wall.

Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:54 pm to
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except it kinda does





I'd call about 5 of those 'good' albums.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:55 pm to
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yeah no shite. The "other albums" I was referring to are AHM, meddle, and ummagumma that you said were all better than the wall.



I posted the meticulous aggregated list and proved you wrong.

Next question?
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 4:58 pm to
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I'd call about 5 of those 'good' albums.


those other albums are irrelevant. a band's top selling album is usually the best. in this case it's second or third best the consumer decides what is good and what's not. i mean no offense but you said anders put out "strong lyrics" and "powerful vocals" in his albums.

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I posted the meticulous aggregated list and proved you wrong.


bad list by a guy with bad taste

This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted by NeverToYield
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:01 pm to
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I posted the meticulous aggregated list and proved you wrong.


you didn't prove me wrong about anything. And that list is an aggregate of what, exactly?

People who listen to pink floyd, ya know..the fans who actually go out and buy the records, bought a metric frick ton more of The Wall than those other 3.
Posted by DrunkTigerBaiter
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:02 pm to
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People who listen to pink floyd, ya know..the fans who actually go out and buy the records, bought a metric frick ton more of The Wall than those other 3.








the consumer decides what which album is good, not some random internet loser
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:04 pm to
the consumer isn't always right
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:07 pm to
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the consumer decides what which album is good, not some random internet loser



This isn't orientation for a summer job as a customer service attendant at Winn Dixie. The consumer isn't always right, and a lot of the times is downright wrong.
Posted by NeverToYield
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:08 pm to
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the consumer isn't always right


of course. Some floyd fans may like the frickin division bell better than any other album. To each his own. But heady didn't say "in my personal opinion, I prefer x to y". He said that meddle et al were "far and away better" albums than the wall.

It would be like having a taste test convention for people who like a certain food, let's say chili. You have 1,000 people there, and each person is given a taste taste of 2 kinds of chili, then they get to pick one of those 2 chilis to take a bowl home with them. If like 900 of those 1000 people pick the same chili, it's a pretty foregone conclusion that that one is by and large better than the other.
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:10 pm to
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It would be like having a taste test convention for people who like a certain food, let's say chili. You have 1,000 people there, and each person is given a taste taste of 2 kinds of chili, then they get to pick one of those 2 chilis to take a bowl home with them. If like 900 of those 1000 people pick the same chili, it's a pretty foregone conclusion that that one is by and large better than the other.


This exact concept is reflected on in my meticulous aggregated ratings and once again Meddle is the clear winner.
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