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Personal observation, maybe not the same for everybody(especially New Players)

Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:07 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31939 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:07 am
. but I haven't been playing much for a few weeks, been busy with family stuff. Picked up a guitar for the first time tonight, and a song idea, that I have been struggling with for quite a while, just came together, right out of the gate.
My playing is a little bit weak, that's OK though, that will tighten back up.

Anybody else kind of the same? Have to take breaks sometimes?
Posted by facelessman07
Member since Jan 2019
240 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:15 am to
It's analogous to studying when you're in school, imo.

Oftentimes you need to walk away and focus on other creative interests all the while your subconscious is still trying to figure out how to make things connect. This is commonly referred to as the "diffuse" method of thinking.

Then, after some time apart, your subconscious has things figured out and voila!



Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13107 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:17 am to
Right, you notice that when working on muscle memory skills, you'll often struggle throughout the drill. But when you pick it up the next day, you'll be much more proficient at it.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14971 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:05 am to
I've noticed a similar thing when trying to learn a song. Sometimes I'm struggling with a certain passage and I put the guitar down. Then a day or two later I pick it up again and suddenly I'm much better at that part. I might not have it "down" yet but now I can get through it and it will get better as I practice it.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:29 am to
I thought it was just me.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14971 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:44 am to
I watched a show recently about sleep (I think it was a Nova episode maybe). Anyway, the question is why do we sleep and what happens when we sleep? One thing they suggested was that sleep is when we convert temporary memories into permanent ones. So I'm wondering if "sleeping on it" performs a similar function for "muscle memory" (which isn't really the same thing as true memory). Sleep reinforces whatever you were trying to learn and makes it more permanent.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2101 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:50 am to
I've learned very quickly over the last few months, as a beginner, that after getting frustrated, just put it down and it always seems to come together after a day or two break
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 12:17 pm to
I'm going to probably start taking video footage of my hands while playing certain involved songs and passages so I can have a quick reference for later. I don't read music and I notice that particularly if a song is in a non-standard tuning I'll tend to neglect it for a while and when I come back to it, I can only remember bits and pieces so I have to sit down and learn it all over again.

One thing's for sure, this lockdown has been a boon for my playing. I'm making a brand new list of songs to run through like ones I've done in the past that took months, sometimes a year to develop. It's now coming together in a matter of days.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:40 pm to
quote:


Anybody else kind of the same? Have to take breaks sometimes? 


Always. I like to focus on a different instrument when I'm bored of another. Also, getting a new guitar helps. New feel in your hands can sometimes inspire differently.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14737 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:50 pm to
One of the things I once did in a former life was compete in all things whitewater canoe.

This one particular task involved doing this kayak move in a canoe. No one in canoes were really consistent, they just very hit or miss, if even able to occasionally hit it. So the night before this big event, as I lay weighting the day, I started doing these mental rehearsals with Bob the kayaker making those moves in my boat. Visualizing him making it look routine. Just like he could in his kayak until nodding off. Next day comes and this move was near automatic. Several of us had been working on this series of moves for weeks. And I just went off, on demand, and like I had been sandbagging in practice.

So whom do I need to visualize playing my guitar?
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31939 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Also, getting a new guitar helps. New feel in your hands can sometimes inspire differently.


That hasn't been working as well for me lately, but it use to.
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