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re: Official: Guitar beginners question and answer thread.

Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

There’s a reason classical guitar players hold and play the way they do. The thumb naturally falls to the middle of the neck giving greater reach.


Can't be said enough. It really is the perfect playing position, and will give cleanest sounding results, even if it's not the most comfortable.
I don't always play that way, but if I am at the studio and need everything right, that's how I'm doing it.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2020 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 2:12 pm to
Just got rid of a bunch of friends that were running away from mardi gras to ski. Haven't touched the guitar since last Wednesday. Not happy about that, but I am jacked to get back on it tonight!
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:36 am to
I've been playing an Acoustic 18 years.I've never had a lesson.Not any advice except here.

I've realized that I've gone as far as I can take myself without help.

So,anybody starting out;listen to these guys here that know what they're talking about.

I'm gonna start trying to learn things that I can't teach myself.

Happy picking.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:11 am to
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." - Socrates






and welcome to know nothing club
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 12:39 pm to
correct, and I'll add one more:

Challenge yourself. When I find myself in a rut, just playing the same stuff over and over, I dig out something that I don't know at all and force myself to learn it.

started with bluegrass flatpicking a few months ago, felt like I was starting again from scratch. still a long way to go, but I'm much better at it now and, more importantly, I think my overall playing has improved as a direct result.

for what its worth.
Posted by tidalmouse
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 8:19 am to
Thanks.

I starting watching guys playing pre-war Martins on You-Tube,and I realized that if that's playing guitar,I'm not sure what I'm doing.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2020 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 8:00 pm to
Does anyone have a link to a good lesson for “good time Charlie’s got the blues”?

Tia
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Thanks.

I starting watching guys playing pre-war Martins on You-Tube,and I realized that if that's playing guitar,I'm not sure what I'm doing.


Simple, you're learning how to play guitar. Even those guys started out on Page 1. They just have thousands more hours behind them than you do.

I'm not great, but serviceable. Why can't I get to Tony Rice or Doc Watson levels if I actually put the time and effort in? I just don't accept that because those guys were (R.I.P.) so good no one else can be again.

Stay at it. You'll surprise and impress yourself one day.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 2/29/20 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

quote:

quote:
There’s a reason classical guitar players hold and play the way they do. The thumb naturally falls to the middle of the neck giving greater reach.


Can't be said enough. It really is the perfect playing position, and will give cleanest sounding results, even if it's not the most comfortable.
I don't always play that way, but if I am at the studio and need everything right, that's how I'm doing it.


although and why I hesitated to overload

Nothing is absolute (or one way for all) when it comes to guitar. Sometimes that thumb under center (and why I 1st mentioned) is your friend and can make that stretch easy. However on smaller necks and especially if your fingers allow grabbing the neck like a club there's also has some real benefits. Like phenomenal hammer-on's, the ever popular type G-run, as are other real common walks.

And for some guys a thumb over the top string is another other good way to make an A-type barre. Where you thumb over strings 5 and 6 from the top side and wrap center and ring fingers up a couple frets down toward the bridge. For instance... do an over the top thumb on top 2 strings (any fret)... next get all four thinnest strings two frets toward nut with a flat ring finger ... and strum middle 4 strings.. or include top string to create a 5th-in-bass/chord... or even include the thinnest string for real pretty 6th type chord. Note: Adding your center finger doesn't matter and can help make it easy as long is it's to the nut side (so it's hidden away). This form of barre is real common to Travis style picking.

another barre form (and best thumb center) is a

G-type barre (one of my fav's) and so easy. Fret any place across all strings with 1st and 2nd fingers stacked on top of each other. Finger two on top of pointing finger. Real strong and easy. Now get 5th string two frets down with ring finger and 6th string 3 frets down with pinky. Strum omitting high-E string (the thinnest); unless you want another 6th chord (which BTW is real pretty to do sometimes, often fit's, and barely noticed especially if lightly hit). Now that's a real easy 4 fret chord. And works if only top strings few strings are used - think power chord. I'm not sure why it's not more commonly taught? My instructor had me learn it with pinky on high-E all 4 fingers, it was quickly all but forgotten, and a real _itch.

oh-shite (overload)
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:37 am to
quote:

Stay at it. You'll surprise and impress yourself one day.


I play every day.I've got a 2018 D-28.I'm constantly learning new songs.

I play and sing at an Assisted Living facility here.

I've hit a little wall.

I don't play with a Pick.I feel like I'm limited because of that.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:45 am to
quote:

I don't play with a Pick.I feel like I'm limited because of that.


Are you playing with you fingers or just strumming?
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:33 am to
I play with my thumb.It's the way I taught myself.

I try to "Thumb Pick",I guess you would call it.

I play cleaner with it,and to be honest,it was the easiest way.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:53 am to
Have you tried alternated bass and finger picking?
Merle Travis style. It can help you develop your own style of playing.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 9:34 am to
I'll give that a try.I guess I can start with my Thumb and Index.

That's a good thing for me to work at.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27992 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 10:42 am to
Helped me a lot, I don't really do that same kind of music, but to be able to pick out an interesting rhythm with your thumb, while you use your fingers to pick the rest of the chords in different patterns, it gives you a lot of advantages, especially if you are singing.
It seems difficult at first, but it's really not, and once you get better at only picking certain strings, you'll get better at moving chords around.
I try to use Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings style bass string playing, using more of a John Lee Hooker timing, along with regular blues picking.
Remember this too, it's not about you being great, it's about The Song, sometimes simple strumming is the way to do it.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
363 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Does anyone have a link to a good lesson for “good time Charlie’s got the blues”?


Which version?
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:


I play every day.I've got a 2018 D-28.I'm constantly learning new songs.

I play and sing at an Assisted Living facility here.

I've hit a little wall.

I don't play with a Pick.I feel like I'm limited because of that.


So, buy some picks and learn how to use them. If you already know chords and rhythm it'll happen pretty fast I expect.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

I play every day.I've got a 2018 D-28.I'm constantly learning new songs.

Jesus, I wish I could have learned on a D-28.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted by 45acp
Near The Big Chicken
Member since Jul 2007
738 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:00 pm to
Been strumming Sweet Jenny Lee Western swing standard.

Pretty fun intermediate? song.

F7 C7 C7 F7
F7 C7 C7 F7
Am D7 G7 C7
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:00 pm to
Bump for updates by the "beginners". How are y'all coming along?

My journey into bluegrass flatpicking is going surprisingly well from my perspective. It's starting to click in my head, and I'm understanding the "why" I'm doing something now as much as the "what" I'm doing. Fun times.
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