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Mic recs
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:37 am
Looking to upgrade to a new vocal mic for live performance. I don't do any real recording other than for a cover band FB promo video or something like that.
I have the standard Shure SM58 that I have used for years. Good solid mic and built like a tank. But, it is kind of plain in the output. Looking at spending some more and upgrading. Here are my options and would like to get your opinions.
Shure Beta 58: This is the newer 58 with the blue band on the cap. Reviews say this thing is awesome and bigtime upgrade from the old 58 and way better than the Sennheisers.
Sennheiser 935: Cardoid Dynamic. Description and reviews say cuts out noise from behind the mic.
Sennheiser 945: Super Cardoid. Description and reviews say could be some noise get through from behind the mic, but otherwise crystal clear.
Reviews for the Sennheisers say they blow away the Beta 58.
So, the reviews are no help as the different brand users can't really give any impartial reviews.
I have the standard Shure SM58 that I have used for years. Good solid mic and built like a tank. But, it is kind of plain in the output. Looking at spending some more and upgrading. Here are my options and would like to get your opinions.
Shure Beta 58: This is the newer 58 with the blue band on the cap. Reviews say this thing is awesome and bigtime upgrade from the old 58 and way better than the Sennheisers.
Sennheiser 935: Cardoid Dynamic. Description and reviews say cuts out noise from behind the mic.
Sennheiser 945: Super Cardoid. Description and reviews say could be some noise get through from behind the mic, but otherwise crystal clear.
Reviews for the Sennheisers say they blow away the Beta 58.
So, the reviews are no help as the different brand users can't really give any impartial reviews.
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Posted on 4/13/22 at 11:12 am to wareaglepete
My limited experience with mics and recording (but it is much more recording than live) tells me you can't go wrong with the Sennheiser that fits your application, as long as you can afford it.
As far as live, live sound stages are fingerprints - snowflakes, every one is different, so - again with limited experience, it is far more about who is running the board with tried and true equipment versus specific model differences between comparable mics.
Your experience and satisfaction are going to be just that and based on a bunch of things both inside and outside your control.
I doubt this helps much. In your case, you already have experience with the Shure - is there way to try out the new Shure before buying it?
As far as live, live sound stages are fingerprints - snowflakes, every one is different, so - again with limited experience, it is far more about who is running the board with tried and true equipment versus specific model differences between comparable mics.
Your experience and satisfaction are going to be just that and based on a bunch of things both inside and outside your control.
I doubt this helps much. In your case, you already have experience with the Shure - is there way to try out the new Shure before buying it?
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/13/22 at 11:36 am to Ace Midnight
On "trying out" with a big box brick and mortar or online vendor that brags about their return policy ... BE EXTRA SURE to doublecheck the written warranty/return policies with whatever vendor with whom you do business. Musical merchandise that is exposed to saliva and/or breath (mics, harmonicas, band instruments) are often not returnable. I'd suspect in today's COVID world, there is absolutely zero leeway.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 12:51 pm to wareaglepete
SHURE SM58
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:47 pm to wareaglepete
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But, it is kind of plain in the output.
Are people putting Cloudlifters on live mics these days? Should help with extra gain.
Maybe a nice preamp could help.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:52 pm to Decatur
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Maybe a nice preamp could help.
I actually have a little tube vocal preamp on the way I am going to try out. We'll see how it does.
On the other questions of trying out, I have found out that between my rhythm player and lead singer, they have all three mics I am asking about. I am going to test them all tomorrow night and get my lead singer's input.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 3:58 pm to wareaglepete
I don’t have much experience with live sound but in the studio nice preamps with ample gain can really activate mics.
I’ve heard nice things about the Shure Beta 58 but don’t think you can go wrong with a regular 58 or 57. Saw Ty Segall singing on a 57 Friday night.
I’ve heard nice things about the Shure Beta 58 but don’t think you can go wrong with a regular 58 or 57. Saw Ty Segall singing on a 57 Friday night.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/13/22 at 4:59 pm to wareaglepete
Don’t rule out that the issue could be something other than the mics. Even the best mics may not do as well if it’s a matter with the mixer you’re using or some other component in the chain. May even have something to do with gain staging but I may have to let someone else explore that topic.
Super cardioid has a tighter pattern so if it is set up in front of the drums it could pick it up more.
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Sennheiser 945: Super Cardoid. Description and reviews say could be some noise get through from behind the mic, but otherwise crystal clear.
Super cardioid has a tighter pattern so if it is set up in front of the drums it could pick it up more.
This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 5:39 pm
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