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Is southern rock the purest form of rock?

Posted on 4/20/16 at 12:53 am
Posted by _Hurricane_
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 12:53 am
I understand it's heavily influenced by country but rock is from the south and it seems like most of the early rock songs would have fallen under "southern" rock if that had been a thing at the time.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 1:01 am to
Rock by definition is a hybrid form, and therefore cannot be "pure"

Also you're talking about "rockabilly". "Southern rock" refers to a completely different genre from 20 years later.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:44 am to
Ramones and Motorhead.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:10 am to
Widespread frickING Panic
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:16 am to
no
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:47 am to
Bill Hailey and the Comets.

Thread.

Beyond that it becomes a hybrid of foolishness that made it awesome. Any great 60's and 70's Rock icons will all name an old blues guy as their influence.

I've always meant to listen to Howlin Wolf" as Plant, Page, Clapton just off the top of my head have mentioned him.

The minute the blues got in it it became "rock" IMO. but it was a hybrid already. Therefore all after are hybrids.
Posted by GeauxMatt624
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:54 am to
It may not be the purest but its dang sure my favorite. Anything that plays through Marshall stacks is O.K. in my book.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:58 pm to
Nah, the earliest rock and roll song was a sea shanty from the early 19th century:

"Oh do, my Johnny Bowker/ Come rock and roll me over"

Seriously - to me "purest rock" owes a lot more to the blues than southern rock does. Slim Harpo for instance was a Baton Rouge "bluesman" who's music was covered by The Kinks, The Who, The Stones, Pink Floyd, the Doors, Van Morrison, the Dead, etc. Not too shabby for a guy most Baton Rouge-ans have probably never heard of. Southern rock really came after this. And I do like it but it's a later offshoot.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:06 pm to
In his defence, Baton Rougeans haven't heard of much outside of Journey, Garth Brooks, Van Morrison, and the Molly Ringwalds.
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:06 pm to
I'd say no. For example, The Allman Brothers Band is imo the best southern rock band but they were more about blues, jazz and even country than rock itself.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

In his defence, Baton Rougeans haven't heard of much outside of Journey, Garth Brooks, Van Morrison, and the Molly Ringwalds
Posted by Nativebullet
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I understand it's heavily influenced by country but rock is from the south and it seems like most of the early rock songs would have fallen under "southern" rock if that had been a thing at the time.




Depends on what part of the country you are from. I imagine a 14 girl from Greece would not agree with you, nor would an 85 year old man from Japan. Get my point. Me, being an Native American ..... I say this is the purest form of rock.

LINK

This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:09 pm to
Sooo...where does Big Head Todd fit in to this?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Bill Hailey and the Comets.

Thread.
Actually they were as much a hybrid as anyone else. They were originally a country band called The Saddlemen when they started covering R&B songs.

Jimmy Preston - "Rock The Joint (1949)
quote:

Two years later, Bill Haley and the Saddlemen had already achieved some success with their cover of Ike Turner's (and/or Jackie Brenston's) "Rocket 88", but were looking for another hit. They were persuaded by their producer, Essex Records owner Dave Miller, to cover "Rock The Joint" - a song which, like "Rocket 88", had already been successful with R&B audiences. Haley recorded the song (the exact location is unknown but is believed to have been recorded in the band's hometown of Chester, Pennsylvania in February or March 1952), but made up verses of his own to appeal to his country audience, named a succession of hillbilly dances (such as the Sugarfoot Rag and Virginia Reel) in place of Preston's hucklebuck and jitterbug, and also used different instrumentation on the track, and more back echo. In particular, Haley's version used a prominent percussive slapped bass played by Marshall Lytle and electric guitar by Danny Cedrone, with a lick he duplicated two years later on "Rock Around The Clock".
Bill Haley - "Rock The Joint" (1952)

Hearing this now is a bit disorienting -- it sounds like Danny Cedrone's guitar solo from "Rock Around The Clock" has been grafted onto it. Actually it's the other way around!

Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:32 pm to
Uh, Brown Eyed Girl, Domino, Wild Nights, ect get played on repeat around BR, even more so in Ascension Parish.
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